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Celeb News: The Guardian DRAGS Beyonce'
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Originally posted by Grin Toll
This is a pathetic and pathological thought and essentialy the core of her subtle mysogyny as echoed in "If you liked it, then you should have put a ring on it. Don't be mad once you see that he want it"
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No, it's not considering it's statistically proven that men are more likely to cheat and are more sexually aroused as seen in the amount of men that are labeled paraphiliacs compared to women.
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C'mon It was just a performance.
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Meanwhile the tour wasn't even confirmed let alone we have its name. 
The IMPACT.
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Originally posted by Grin Toll
NOT ONE LIE SPOTTED
Beyonce is a project catered to a male-dominated world feeding into patriarchal social norms and stereotypes. All her material and performance art is sex / relationship / glamor oriented. Girls wanna be her, men wanna be with her and gays buy into her ****.
Her performances are degrading to women, they exploit femininity and sex
Take all of me
I just wanna be the girl you like, girl you like
The kind of girl you like, girl you like
Take all of me
I just wanna be the girl you like, girl you like
The kinda girl you like
Is right here with me
Poor girls looking up to her as a role model

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yes, shame that Beyoncé for being sexual. drag ha sis 
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Wow. How incredibly sad.
Women trashing other successful women. THIS is what's wrong with our society. THIS is why women find it so hard to compete with men or get the same respect & social standing as men, because women are tearing each other down. It's so sad & sickening.
Did this author think even for a second, how Beyonce leads her life off stage? Her normal everyday life, which is the total opposite of her "stage" life? When she is on stage, she is an entertainer. She is performing an act, just like every entertainer in the world.
Why is it wrong for her to sing to her husband in a provocative manner? He is her husband. She is lawfully married to him. He is not some random guy she is being sexual with. WHY is that wrong?
If Beyonce has songs that are of sexual nature, she also has songs that are in tune with feminism, Irreplaceable & If I were a Boy are two prime examples.
Beyonce is an example of how to carry yourself with dignity and self-respect when you are in the public eye. That's what the young girls should learn from her.
Beyonce is a woman who has built an empire on her own, without depending on anyone. She is a strong confident woman who leads her life respectfully. She is never caught in scandals. She is never falling out of the clubs, drunk.
She always carries herself with class. She is soft-spoken and well-mannered. That's what girls should look up to.
Young girls should strive to be the Beyonce off stage not on stage. Beyonce is an entertainer. She has every right to do what she wants on stage. She is a hard worker and possesses so many talents. Young girls should strive to be as talented as her. As hardworking as her.
If women will continue to attack other women, they will always remain below men in society. Women should support each other and not find petty excuses to vent their own domestic frustrations by trash talking other successful, confident, strong & independent women.
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Originally posted by Desert Rain
So it is exploiting femininity and sex to be both feminine and SEXY in the public eye?
Do we tell Zac Efron that he is exploiting masculinity and sex by being shirtless on stage? Is David Beckham a terrible man because he has sustained a career based off looks and the size of his package?
You're playing an anti feminist role by dismissing a woman as exploiting by OWNING her sexuality. You've belittled her by assuming that she doesn't own it and everything she does is for the attention and excitement of men.
And Partition.. Having a desire to please your man sexually is not anti feminist.
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So she was owning her sexuality when she basically was playing a prostitute on national TV?
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Originally posted by Grin Toll
She is essentialy a house-wife in sequins, under the strobe lights holding back the future for women and all human beings
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such a staunch feminist you are, that you put down Beyoncé, a self-managed half a billionaire with her own record label, as "just a housewife."
what a great way to promote the equality of women by reducing such a powerful woman and erasing all of her achievements & to also promote elitism over certain women (housewives).
keep on dragging sis

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Originally posted by ElleDriver
So she was owning her sexuality when she basically was playing a prostitute on national TV?
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What sort of ignorance says a woman in sheer clothing must be a prostitute...
Is Katy Perry a prostitute pole dancing in the Dark Horse video next to Juicy J?
Is Gaga a prostitute for dancing with R Kelly in a sequinned skimpy dress?
Is Miley a prostitute for grinding on Robin Thicke?
Is Rihanna a prostitute for dancing with Drake in a short dress?
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Originally posted by ElleDriver
So she was owning her sexuality when she basically was playing a prostitute on national TV?
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What's wrong with prostitution if the prostitute is able to sexually arouse the man so much that he is unable to resist her and willingly gives her cash (what she wants) to pleasure him while she is able to control her sexual drive? The dominant role here belongs to the prostitute.
Yes, I understand that there is forced prostitution, but Beyoncé has never promoted that.
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You have to remember sexuality is a power, not something to be ashamed of doing
Beyonce is in no way playing the role of a woman who's "obedient to her husband", but a powerful, successful independent woman who's capable of owning herself and everything in her life.....including sex.
She's basically telling girls that sexuality is yet another thing - pretty much like "shoes on their feet, the wear they're wearing" - that they have to control by theirselves, not let the man control.
She's telling the girls that they can be as sexually wild and free as they want, long as they have an independent empire for their own selves can always go back to when they need, not to let their life be controlled by men who can use them for sexual pleasure wether or wether not they want that.
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The idea that a woman cannot be sexual for their OWN pleasure is what is holding them back. As long as you maintain the idea that to be a feminist you must dress conservatively in the presence of others and be single, outspoken and domineering to be validated as a feminist, then we're going nowhere.
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I really don't get how feminism can get so complicated. It should be as simple as believing that women should be treated equally and receive the same opportunities and rewards as men.
If it's perfectly fine for men to appear shirtless, rap about doing ho's in songs, be sexual players why is it wrong for Beyonce to be sexual? Why is it always the assumption that her sexuality is forced or manufactured? That it's just an attempt to please the man. If you look at things that way isn't every man being sexual trying to please the woman.
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Originally posted by ElleDriver
So she was owning her sexuality when she basically was playing a prostitute on national TV?
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And so freaking what if she was being sexual? She was with her HUSBAND. Why is that wrong? She has been with that man for 12 years. She is singing to him. She is being provocative with him.
People do all kinds of things behind close doors, so let's not point a finger at others, cuz there are 3 pointing right back at us.
Why is it wrong for a woman to explore her sexuality? Men can do it all they want, but as soon as a woman does it, all hell breaks loose.
This society is full of hypocrites. And these type of women are the reason why women in general do not have the same social standing as men. Sad.
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And why is it still such a taboo for women, apparently women of color with the flack Beyoncé has received, to openly talk about their sex life? You don't have to listen to it if you don't want to, but that doesn't mean you should try to stop her from talking about it. Trying to force her to change the subject is going against the point of feminism, which you're accusing her of misrepresenting. How incredibly hypocritical.
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Yeah the tour nor name has even been confirmed so...
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Originally posted by GeezusHaberdash
such a staunch feminist you are, that you put down Beyoncé, a self-managed half a billionaire with her own record label, as "just a housewife."
what a great way to promote the equality of women by reducing such a powerful woman and erasing all of her achievements & to also promote elitism over certain women (housewives).
keep on dragging sis

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I'm not putting down Beyonce, I'm just criticizing the alter ego she created on-stage and in her albums. She's just supporting a world where only Micheal Jordans, Beyonces and MJs are valued and acceptable; a world where glamour is awarded and where a woman's worth is measured only in proportion to her husband.
As long as she tolerates and promotes this mentality, we'll think it'd be cool to have a female president just because she is female regardless of the individual; "FEMALE CEOs" will have news value, and we will celebrate Beyonce for building an empire exploiting these stereotypes creating the illusion of a strong woman.
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Originally posted by Grin Toll
I'm not putting down Beyonce, I'm just criticizing the alter ego she created on-stage and in her albums. She's just supporting a world where only Micheal Jordans, Beyonces and MJs are valued and acceptable; a world where glamour is awarded and where a woman's worth is measured only in proportion to her husband.
As long as she tolerates and promotes this mentality, we'll think it'd be cool to have a female president just because she is female regardless of the individual; "FEMALE CEOs" will have news value, and we will celebrate Beyonce for building an empire exploiting these stereotypes creating the illusion of a strong woman.
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There are just my opinions:
1. Historically men have out-earned women, so why shouldn't we measure the success of a working woman in proportion to her husband? Why compare her to other women when the point is to promote feminism? Pitting women against women surely doesn't promote feminism.
2. Female CEOs should make the news, because they are an anomaly as of right now. Furthermore, a female CEO probably worked much harder than her male counterpart to land her position, which means she's more than qualified to carry out her duties. She wasn't placed at the top simply because she was born with a vagina.
3. Beyoncé was a strong woman before she met Jay Z. She's not playing pretend. Let's just glamorize for a moment: She bought him a jet with her own money. How many women are in a position to do that? She's not weak.
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This is really not her year 
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Originally posted by Desert Rain
What sort of ignorance says a woman in sheer clothing must be a prostitute...
Is Katy Perry a prostitute pole dancing in the Dark Horse video next to Juicy J?
Is Gaga a prostitute for dancing with R Kelly in a sequinned skimpy dress?
Is Miley a prostitute for grinding on Robin Thicke?
Is Rihanna a prostitute for dancing with Drake in a short dress?
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Most of these women you listed never implied they were feminists.. They are aware of the fact their biggest strength is their body. Bey on the other hand ,who's supposedly aiming for the equality of the two genders, (which requires women to be portrayed as more than good housewives and sexual objects) exploites her sexuality in order to promote her work and get people interested in her. How is that any different than let's say women in the 50's who played the pin up character for the same reasons I listed? Why must her sexuality be her biggest strength when she could be equally inspirational and respected while using other different aspects of her being? Now, I'm not saying Bey is necessary an anti-femist, but I don't believe she's completely honest about the whole feminism talk.
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