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Poll: Can radio save G.U.Y.?
View Poll Results: Will radio be enough to save G.U.Y.?
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Yes
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No
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Member Since: 12/13/2011
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Originally posted by Rihinvention
I find it odd that monsters were stanning so hard for G.U.Y to be a single, and were stanning even harder during it's prerelease and video hype, saying "yesss, this is going to slayyyy" and now that it hasn't, a lot of people seem to be saying "bad single choice, should have gone with Sexxx Dreams/Swine/MANiCURE/Donatella/Venus/Gypsy."
Like it or not, bobbymfw is right, G.U.Y is one of the better options for a single.
The problem is, ARTPOP is quite monotonous in the fact that all the songs are of a similar quality. There's no "highs and lows" (except Jewels and Drugs and Dope, which in my opinion are both lows). But monsters take this to mean that because all the songs on the album are of a similar quality/production sound, then it must mean that the whole albums "slayyyysss mama" when it actuality (in my opinion) it just means that there aren't any stand-outs on the album. For example, with Prism, EVERYONE (stans, fans and haters) all knew the second they heard it that Birthday and This Is How We Do are/would be singles. They're stand-outs on an already great pop record.
With ARTPOP, it seems like everyone is scrambling to choose the singles and can't make up their minds. Monsters, fans, Interscope and Gaga herself. It shouldn't be this hard to pick singles. Nor should it result in this many arguments over it within the base. Singles should be so obvious they stick out like a sore thumb and NOT "mmmm....we're gonna go withhhhh..."
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Couldn't have said it better myself
You need to work for a record label
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Member Since: 12/13/2011
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Originally posted by Cain
This is entirely not true.
In fact, most teenagers of our age are not into pop music/pop culture, at all.
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Now THAT's some straight up bull.
If something happened to Miley or Justin, in a middle or high school it's talked about just like any rumor in school.
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Member Since: 2/2/2014
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Hopefully yes, but i don't think so
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by phreshprince
Now THAT's some straight up bull.
If something happened to Miley or Justin, in a middle or high school it's talked about just like any rumor in school.
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Ofcourse, but Miley and Justin their antics are on a whole other level than G.U.Y. being released as a single, especially since Gaga's fame has already lowered a lot since her break.
The same goes for Gaga's antics back in 2010, because they reached beyond pop fans, but don't expect the 'normal' teenager to keep up with ARTPOPs single releases.
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Member Since: 1/7/2014
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Originally posted by Rihinvention
And You & I.
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The GP knows the words to You and I (Sweet Caroline of 2011). Unlike the others I've mentioned above.
So .... try again.
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Member Since: 3/1/2014
Posts: 13,632
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Nnnn Mess @ the iTunes position!
But I'm not sure if radio can save it tbh!
Oh well, Sexxx Dreams is coming to slay lives!
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Member Since: 4/3/2014
Posts: 19,477
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Yeah but we live in a celebrity-obsessed culture. Teenagers are online constantly. Facebook, celebrity gossip websites, even just going to youtube the week that G.U.Y came out, it would have appeared as a suggested video on the front page. Not to mention if they were watching a Justin or a Miley video, it would come up in a VEVO suggestion. Plus, a lot of teenagers watch MTV and would have seen it.
Basically what I'm saying is, I think most people are aware of G.U.Y. I don't think awareness of the song is the problem here. It's going to gain any more traction from radio play because people are only just hearing it for the first time.
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Member Since: 4/5/2014
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Member Since: 4/5/2014
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Originally posted by Rihinvention
For example, with Prism, EVERYONE (stans, fans and haters) all knew the second they heard it that Birthday and This Is How We Do are/would be singles. They're stand-outs on an already great pop record.
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Are you shading Katy? because that is called "making an album of 3-4 potential radio hits and the rest of fillers"
How is that a good thing for you?
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Member Since: 4/3/2014
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Originally posted by Mikeymoonshine
I don't like your tone at all tbh
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I apologise. I didn't mean to have a tone, and I don't think I did. I was just trying to express my opinion as eloquently as possible. It just so happens that my opinion is different to yours.
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Originally posted by Mikeymoonshine
Why wouldn't fans of a pop star stan for their next single? Why wouldn't they want it to do well?
It certainly wasn't everyone's go to single until she announced that it would be. Before that there was all kinds of arguing about what should be next.
Every base says "It's gonna slay!!!" if it's their fave but that wasn't the consensus of all the fans. Many of us thought it would not do well and that nothing this era will.
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That's not true at all. I didn't stan for Pour It Up or What Now. Nor did I ever say "it's gonna slay!!!" anywhere online. To be honest, I was disappointed with her singles choices. I think they should have been replaced by Nobody's Business and Jump.
I think that's the problem with Gaga. She's surrounded by too many yes-men and there seems to be no constructive criticism. It's the same with her fans though. I feel the connection, love, bond and relationship she has with her fans is so strong that (because they feel she gives them so much) they will love her unconditionally and support her every career move. It's very rare to find a monster say "I don't like Dope" or "Judas really, really shouldn't have been a single"
At least in my experience, that is.
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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G.U.Y isn't catchy at all defo nothing like Pokerface or Lovegame. I felt love for those instantly while GUY never caught my attention until the video was released. The song flopped and the Artpop era is now definitely over. ATRL needs to get over it now since its obvious...
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Member Since: 6/26/2012
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this era is too messy to be saved she needs to go into another hiatus and give the GP a break from herself; maybe do some things in Asia they love her there
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Maverick
Are you shading Katy? because that is called "making an album of 3-4 potential radio hits and the rest of fillers"
How is that a good thing for you?
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Well the same can be said for BEYONCÉ, everyone knew Partition was the song to go with as a single while it's an amazing album.
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Member Since: 5/21/2009
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Member Since: 4/3/2014
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Originally posted by Maverick
Are you shading Katy? because that is called "making an album of 3-4 potential radio hits and the rest of fillers"
How is that a good thing for you?
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No it's not. Just because an album has stand-outs doesn't mean the rest are automatically fillers. I'm basically just saying, that her album is a great, fun, pop record, and the songs on it are amazing, but there are some songs on there that are just so obviously smash-hits that you just KNOW they're going to hit #1 on the Billboard Hot 100.
And another thing: I'm sick of people talking about a lot of Katy Perry songs using words like "generic" and "formulaic" and "predictable" and "radio-friendly" and "childish" and "bubblegum" as if they're bad things. This is partly why Gaga is who she is and why she's so popular. When she entered the industry in 2008, she was so, SOOO unapologetically pop, and was so unabashedly pop. This was after years and years of there being a stigma on pop music. That it was manufactured and childish. And you were only cool if you listened to indie music or a band that you were the first person to find out about. Then boom. Gaga enters the industry. 2 number 1 hits in a row off her debut album (which hadn't been seen since Christina Aguilera). She literally had glasses that said "POP" on them and started her performances by saying "Pop. Music. Will. Never. Be. The. Same. Again." It was amazing. She single-handedly shed the negative stigma on pop music.
Now that Katy Perry is making unapologetically, unabashedly, radio-friendly pop music, you can't criticise her for it. If she, Bonnie Mckee, Max Martin and Dr. Luke know it's going to work, and know it's going to go to #1 and know it's going to make them a lot of money, then I say more power to them.
You can't have it both ways. You can't praise Gaga for The Fame being so radio-friendly, commercial, and unabashedly pop, and then praise her for being experimental with ARTPOP, and then criticize Katy for Teenage Dream and PRISM being so radio-friendly, commercial and unabashedly pop. It doesn't work that way. It's completely hypocritical and it's completely biased.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by NE.
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nnnnn I've never seen someone drag so hard, go IN
anyway no radio won't save it, they should move on to the next era tbh
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Jicky
G.U.Y isn't catchy at all defo nothing like Pokerface or Lovegame. I felt love for those instantly while GUY never caught my attention until the video was released. The song flopped and the Artpop era is now definitely over. ATRL needs to get over it now since its obvious...
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You forgot to add - In My Opinion - just beacuse it isn't catchy to you, doesn't mean it isn't catchy at all. It is catchy, loud, fun and sounds like a top 20 hit.
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Member Since: 11/5/2011
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Originally posted by NE.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Rihinvention
I apologise. I didn't mean to have a tone, and I don't think I did. I was just trying to express my opinion as eloquently as possible. It just so happens that my opinion is different to yours.
That's not true at all. I didn't stan for Pour It Up or What Now. Nor did I ever say "it's gonna slay!!!" anywhere online. To be honest, I was disappointed with her singles choices. I think they should have been replaced by Nobody's Business and Jump.
I think that's the problem with Gaga. She's surrounded by too many yes-men and there seems to be no constructive criticism. It's the same with her fans though. I feel the connection, love, bond and relationship she has with her fans is so strong that (because they feel she gives them so much) they will love her unconditionally and support her every career move. It's very rare to find a monster say "I don't like Dope" or "Judas really, really shouldn't have been a single"
At least in my experience, that is.
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Well ok, you just were a little hard on us, as people here usually are.
You may not have stanned for those songs but I am sure some people did. I didn't stan for Y&I or MTN because I hated the songs (although I kinda like MTN now and I can sort of stand Y&I I guess).
You have to understand we were unsure if we would even get another single. Plus allot of hype was for the video because video's are kind of what Gaga is good at and the last one was never released. There was always going to be allot of hype.
Gaga has made it clear that she isn't interested in people standing in her way, we are all going to have to deal with that. It's her choice and she will have to live with the consequences but tbh I want her to do what makes her happy.
It really depends on which fans you are talking about, the fans on GGD aren't really like this at all. We constructively criticize her all the time, some would even say too much. Monsters complain about Dope and Judas all the time.
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Member Since: 4/3/2014
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Originally posted by Mikeymoonshine
Well ok, you just were a little hard on us, as people here usually are.
You may not have stanned for those songs but I am sure some people did. I didn't stan for Y&I or MTN because I hated the songs (although I kinda like MTN now and I can sort of stand Y&I I guess).
You have to understand we were unsure if we would even get another single. Plus allot of hype was for the video because video's are kind of what Gaga is good at and the last one was never released. There was always going to be allot of hype.
Gaga has made it clear that she isn't interested in people standing in her way, we are all going to have to deal with that. It's her choice and she will have to live with the consequences but tbh I want her to do what makes her happy.
It really depends on which fans you are talking about, the fans on GGD aren't really like this at all. We constructively criticize her all the time, some would even say too much. Monsters complain about Dope and Judas all the time.
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Mostly the ones on LittleMonsters.com tbh. I've only just discovered atrl, I'm new
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