... if the 2009 MTV Video Music Awards incident "Kanyegate" never happened?

And please be honest.



For those who do not know, MBDTF = My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

Duh. Unless you think the songs 'Monster', 'So Appalled' and 'Lost in the World' are about Taylor then you are in it for the Laughz

EDIT: You again?

No..that album was a direct result of that incident. He flew his ass to Hawaii for 9 months and tried making something perfect.

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I don't think the incident necessarily helped him create each individual song, but it got him into a mindset that allowed him to create those songs.

His position in the industry after crafted the whole album, every song references it (not Taylor but his position - 'they said I was the abomination of obamas nation for example')

I think he would have dropped GOOD Ass Job if he didn't do it.

Are you stalking me?

This. That moment really pitted the GP against Kanye in a way that hadn't happened before. I don't think we'd get MBDTF or Yeezus if it weren't for that incident. That really seemed to set him on a path towards less commercial musical choices.

Didn't he mention in his NYT interview last year that MBDTF was a direct result of what he felt the people wanted from him after the MTV VMAs?

Ya, to quote the analogy (it's one of the ones I like lol)

He makes albums like a kid - CD was a 7 year old, LR was a 6 year old, Grad was a 5 year old, 808s was a 4 year old, MBDTF everyone hated him so he had to make music like a 10 year old, and than Yeezus he jumped back down to 3

Yes it did but it wasn't centered within the incident. Yes, the incident may have triggered him but the lyrics does not only talk about that but rather some other issues about fame, life in his perspective and his private life.

I think he originally planned to release Good Ass Job as the wrap up of TCD, LR and Graduation. I am pretty sure that MBDTF was being crafted way before the incident. It was a build up of everything.

Again, it triggered the sudden release but it will still see the light of day whether or not the incident happened. Of course without the incident, there would be some changes but it wouldn't be far off like it would sound a completely different album

I think he will also eventually release 'Good Ass Job' but in a different working title.

Probably. But I don't see the relevance of this question. As with any rappers/singer/songwriter who draws on life experiences to create their music, if x influential/significant event didn't happen in their lives, of course what they create would be different.

Basically.

It's definitely interesting to consider what would've happened without the VMAs. He would've spent a few months on tour with Gaga, which could've changed her career a lot, and he wouldn't have flown off to Hawaii to record for months.

This.