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Poll: Do YOU Believe in Gay Pride?
View Poll Results: Gay pride?
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Yes.
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No.
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I don't care.
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Member Since: 2/20/2012
Posts: 24,225
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Originally posted by Benjamin
Nope, being gay isn't something I achieved or created or won, it was something I was born with, I have no reason to be proud of it.
Pride should be for something you've worked hard to achieve or earn, pride of being born how you were is what starts stuff like racism and homophobia. Everyone is born equal, there's nothing about your birth to be proud of (unless you survived against all odds or something, but that's a completely different story).
And the people trying to defend Gay Prides by saying 'Well, you obviously haven't been to one so you can't comment!!11!' need to stop and think for a moment - if even Gay people get that impression from these events, imagine the damage it does to straight peoples perception of the gay community.
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Originally posted by BobBertran1992
I couldn't be more flamboyant myself but I feel like gays who show their muscles and their whole bodies are used to attract filthy people to the parade, an actual celebration of gay pride would erase that kind of show and feature gay teachers cops and that kind of people, but sex sells so we see what we actually see
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Have you actually been to a pride parade? Every single one I've been to had a healthy mix of the more rambunctious floats and religious groups, employers, teachers, cops, firemen, etc.
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Member Since: 11/11/2010
Posts: 11,240
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Originally posted by Ferst
This.
And i'm not here for gay pride parades tbh.
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Then don't go
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Member Since: 2/20/2012
Posts: 24,225
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Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla
None of the life you experience today would have been possible without the gay pride movement. You would never be able to "simply be" gay without it.
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Why do you say that? Surely not every young person I've met who accepts me for who I am hasn't taken a course in the history of gay pride... Does it really have an effect on individual people's perception?
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Originally posted by Benjamin
Nope, being gay isn't something I achieved or created or won, it was something I was born with, I have no reason to be proud of it.
Pride should be for something you've worked hard to achieve or earn, pride of being born how you were is what starts stuff like racism and homophobia. Everyone is born equal, there's nothing about your birth to be proud of (unless you survived against all odds or something, but that's a completely different story).
And the people trying to defend Gay Prides by saying 'Well, you obviously haven't been to one so you can't comment!!11!' need to stop and think for a moment - if even Gay people get that impression from these events, imagine the damage it does to straight peoples perception of the gay community.
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All you're doing here is exposing that you know absolutely nothing about where the freedoms you experience as a gay man today came from.
If you think homophobia started with gay pride, you are a fool. Gay pride is what helped us move past homophobia.
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Member Since: 6/25/2011
Posts: 37,192
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Originally posted by chilicheese01
Why do you say that? Surely not every young person I've met who accepts me for who I am hasn't taken a course in the history of gay pride... Does it really have an effect on individual people's perception?
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Yes. They've all been brought up in a society that has been affected by the gay pride movement.
It's like someone in 2014 saying there wasn't really any need for the "Black Pride" marches in the 60s. Read a history book
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Member Since: 12/16/2008
Posts: 59,380
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I'm gay and love being gay but I really think that all of that multicolor flag thing, the parade and that **** is annoying but that's just my opinion.
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It's honestly disappointing how unaware of your own history so many of you are.
Do you think the gay rights movement started from masc bros on the DL or something? Christ
Oh, and saying "Oh I don't support the parades, they make us look bad!" won't make homophobes like you more. You're still just as gay as the man clapping his ass on a tequila float. You're just having less fun. It also exposes that you haven't actually been to a pride parade. Google search =/= the real thing, sweethearts.
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Member Since: 11/11/2010
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Pride is not about as achievements there's white pride black pride female pri etc. Y'all are appeasers y'all want to walk on eggshells so you don't offend homophobic people. Y'all also worry about being stereotyped yet the y'all enforce every gay cliche on this site yet look down on people who do in real life. I really don't have much respect for you guys cause your all nothing but hypocrites.
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Originally posted by princedonte
Pride is not about as achievements there's white pride black pride female pri etc. Y'all are appeasers y'all want to walk on eggshells so you don't offend homophobic people. Y'all also worry about being stereotyped yet the y'all enforce every gay cliche on this site yet look down on people who do in real life. I really don't have much respect for you guys cause your all nothing but hypocrites.
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Phew don't hurt 'em Donte!
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Member Since: 4/6/2011
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Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla
Yes. They've all been brought up in a society that has been affected by the gay pride movement.
It's like someone in 2014 saying there wasn't really any need for the "Black Pride" marches in the 60s. Read a history book
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unfortunately that's how all generations work. These gays that "hate" gay pride think its dumb but they sure wont have a problem taking advantage of the rights that we gain when people fight for us.
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Member Since: 12/16/2008
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Originally posted by princedonte
Pride is not about as achievements there's white pride black pride female pri etc. Y'all are appeasers y'all want to walk on eggshells so you don't offend homophobic people. Y'all also worry about being stereotyped yet the y'all enforce every gay cliche on this site yet look down on people who do in real life. I really don't have much respect for you guys cause your all nothing but hypocrites.
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Ok...
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Originally posted by UnusualBoy
I'm gay and love being gay but I really think that all of that multicolor flag thing, the parade and that **** is annoying but that's just my opinion.
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You realize "that ****" is literally the origin of the gay rights movement, right? You'd still be living in a closeted society without it.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by Reza
unfortunately that's how all generations work. These gays that "hate" gay pride think its dumb but they sure wont have a problem taking advantage of the rights that we gain when people fight for us.
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Gay rights don't come only from parades What kind of mentality is that?
Look, I love costumes and all of that, but selling sex on a gay pride parade is not what I want to see...
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Member Since: 8/16/2011
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I do. I know a lot of gays that LOVE being gay and publish it everywhere, it's like their identity.
I personally hate being gay, it's quite uncomfortable to live this way, always being talked about something you can't change by other people, the prejudice, not being able to choose the guy you like because they won't ever like you (I'm not saying that girls can, but for gays it's even harder), blah blah.
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Originally posted by BobBertran1992
Gay rights don't come only from parades What kind of mentality is that?
Look, I love costumes and all of that, but selling sex on a gay pride parade is not what I want to see...
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Every right we've gotten over the past 40-50 years can be traced back to the gay pride movement and pride parades. It ALL stems from that. There was nothing before the Stonewall Riots and the ensuing pride movement. Nothing. It's the truthful mentality that respects the work the generations before us did.
And selling sex isn't something that only gay people do, so why should only they be judged for it? Halloween and Mardi Gras have just as much scantily clad straight people as a pride parade.
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Member Since: 3/25/2012
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Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla
It's honestly disappointing how unaware of your own history so many of you are.
Do you think the gay rights movement started from masc bros on the DL or something? Christ
Oh, and saying "Oh I don't support the parades, they make us look bad!" won't make homophobes like you more. You're still just as gay as the man clapping his ass on a tequila float. You're just having less fun. It also exposes that you haven't actually been to a pride parade. Google search =/= the real thing, sweethearts.
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It didn't come from gays shaking their asses and dicks on a giant rainbow penis float either. It came from gay men and women sticking up for themselves and fighting for their equal human rights through protests and pickets, etc, and showing the world that gay love is no different from straight love.
I get where you're coming from for sure, but how can you tell someone they're having less fun by not engaging in a festival that promotes the type of activities that they don't want to engage in? If you enjoy "clapping your ass on a tequila float" then by all means go ahead. But don't tell other gay men and women that they have to enjoy it too in order to be supportive of gay pride and equal rights.
The whole point of the gay rights movement is to put homosexuals on equal ground with the rest of society, not for them to stand out and be even more marginalized. There will come a time when we all have to move past the idea of rainbow flags, leather whips and chains and public sex being the "face" of the gay rights movement and for us to just "be" among the rest of society.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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nnnnnn all these young gays in here saying no because they still hate themselves
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Originally posted by cloudinthesky
It didn't come from gays shaking their asses and dicks on a giant rainbow penis float either. It came from gay men and women sticking up for themselves and fighting for their equal human rights through protests and pickets, etc, and showing the world that gay love is no different from straight love.
I get where you're coming from for sure, but how can you tell someone they're having less fun by not engaging in a festival that promotes the type of activities that they don't want to engage in? If you enjoy "clapping your ass on a tequila float" then by all means go ahead. But don't tell other gay men and women that they have to enjoy it too in order to be supportive of gay pride and equal rights.
The whole point of the gay rights movement is to put homosexuals on equal ground with the rest of society, not for them to stand out and be even more marginalized. There will come a time when we all have to move past the idea of rainbow flags, leather whips and chains and public sex being the "face" of the gay rights movement and for us to just "be" among the rest of society.
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I'm not saying you have to enjoy it, I'm saying people seem to think "condemning" those particular gays will make them look better, or more appealing to homophobes. The people who dance in thongs in a gay pride parade aren't doing any more damage to the gay rights movement than a piss-drunk Bostonian is doing to Irish-Americans during the St. Patrick's Day parade. It's just an easy scapegoat insecure gay people use to make themselves feel less gay.
And the people who were "fighting back" that started the entire gay rights movement were the drag queens and flamers in feminine outfits at Stonewall because they had nowhere else to go. The people who could blend in did.
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Member Since: 2/20/2012
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Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla
It's honestly disappointing how unaware of your own history so many of you are.
Do you think the gay rights movement started from masc bros on the DL or something? Christ
Oh, and saying "Oh I don't support the parades, they make us look bad!" won't make homophobes like you more. You're still just as gay as the man clapping his ass on a tequila float. You're just having less fun. It also exposes that you haven't actually been to a pride parade. Google search =/= the real thing, sweethearts.
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Well, I've never been to one, but from what I've seen in the media and online, it just seems like a bunch of lustful gay men walking around half-naked, acting inappropriately. And the majority of people who know of gay pride parades probably view it the same way, because they've never been to them either. So even if the parades are more reserved than they're made out to be, most people do not know this. It simply has a negative impact on people's views of the community more so than it should.
Besides, not every gay man's idea of fun is losing his own dignity as he twerks on a float in front of many people.
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