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Celeb News: T Swift: Hollywood Biggest Player, Exposes Double Standards
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T Swift: Hollywood Biggest Player, Exposes Double Standards
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The case of Taylor Swift in the modern pop cultural atmosphere is a complicated one. She’s a queen/princess/warrior/superstar when it comes to sheer star power, tours, albums, headlines, etc. In fact, Vulture posited a few months back that she’s arguably bigger than other huge pop acts like Katy Perry or even Beyonce (cue gasp). But one thing Taylor Swift has other than an army of celebrity friends and, perhaps more importantly, a huge amount of professional success is a reputation. And that’s likely why Swift’s been named “Hollywood’s Biggest Player” in a recent, very telling poll.
Swift’s place at the top of this list is in many ways, well, quite baffling. Has Taylor Swift really had more public conquests than, say, John Mayer? She’s certainly been rumored to be in romantic contact with every single male person she speaks to or appears to be in the same room as (although sometimes it doesn’t even take being in the same room as them for the rumors to start), but I think it’s fair to assume that every single song on her existing albums has not been about a different individual boy.
Still, though, Swift’s place at the top of this list — which was voted on by listeners of iHeart radio, aka people the public — is an interesting example of how much more weight a young woman’s “reputation” can have on her public image than those of her male counterparts. From that aforementioned Vulture piece:
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Bob Dylan is an incorrigible, at times malicious, kisser-and-teller; for decades, rock critics have been quoting with admiration Elvis Costello’s famous dictum: “The only motivation points for me writing all these songs are revenge and guilt.” Drake’s new album Nothing Was the Same is, as usual, a vérité catalogue of his “bitches” and booty calls, in which he goes so far as to name one of his civilian exes, “Courtney from *Hooters on Peachtree” — a creepier move by far than Swift’s sly swipes at her famous former beaux. It’s hard not to detect a sexist double standard in the policing of Swift’s confessions, especially when you consider the routine misogyny in the songs of rockers, rappers, and woebegone beardy indie balladeers. Taylor Swift is a young woman who dates guys, falls in love, falls out of love, and writes some songs about it. Must we begrudge Swift her muse?
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Are we ever going to let Taylor Swift grow into an adult seen for more than who she may or may not be dating? At some point it stops being about her and it starts being about us.
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I think part of the problem is that Taylor is so blatant about it. I mean, let's be real. She uses a lot of these relationships for promo and then uses the breakups to promote her singles. Most of the guys listed just have sex with lots of people and aren't photographed with every conquest, so people don't connect a specific individual with each song. But if you want to make it some feminist issue, go ahead.
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Originally posted by Circinus
I think part of the problem is that Taylor is so blatant about it. I mean, let's be real. She uses a lot of these relationships for promo and then uses the breakups to promote her singles. Most of the guys listed just have sex with lots of people and aren't photographed with every conquest, so people don't connect a specific individual with each song. But if you want to make it some feminist issue, go ahead.
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She uses relationships for promo? That's news to me. She dates celebrities and, since paparazzi follows her around everywhere, they take pics of her and whoever she's dating everywhere so we all know who she's dating. It's not like she talks about it in interviews. She write about her personal life, including her relationships. Just because you know who the songs are about doesn't mean that she's the one who's telling you.
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Originally posted by Circinus
I think part of the problem is that Taylor is so blatant about it. I mean, let's be real. She uses a lot of these relationships for promo and then uses the breakups to promote her singles. Most of the guys listed just have sex with lots of people and aren't photographed with every conquest, so people don't connect a specific individual with each song. But if you want to make it some feminist issue, go ahead.
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That is true, but I think a factor of this image is A) Her (old) publicist thinking people will check out her tunes if they think its about so and so
and B) Taylor stans making assumptions and passing them on as fact about who a song is about. I mean she has made a point to never blatantly tell who a song is about since the Fearless days.
All her songs could be about an irrelevant guysfor all we know
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So this title is given to the most promiscuous? And Taylor won? I agree with the voters.
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Originally posted by Circinus
I think part of the problem is that Taylor is so blatant about it. I mean, let's be real. She uses a lot of these relationships for promo and then uses the breakups to promote her singles. Most of the guys listed just have sex with lots of people and aren't photographed with every conquest, so people don't connect a specific individual with each song. But if you want to make it some feminist issue, go ahead.
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She writes songs about relationships, as have the majority of her predecessors and contemporaries. Yet she is the one being called out as a player? Being photographed with men does not give the world license to call her a ****, and this absolutely is a feminist/gender dichotomy. Singing about her life and her loves does not mean "she's asking for" any and all talk of her being promiscuous, and the idiocy of the the comment above mine is just a testament to that.
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So this title is given to the most promiscuous? And Taylor won? I agree with the voters. |
Well it wouldnt be a bad thing. If she wants to sleep with a new guy every night then go her
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When you basically only date/hook up with other celebrities, it'll get talked about. You can't really compare her to other people in the industry in terms on how she's viewed and what she's called. People like Drake and other really successful artists hook up with unknowns that no one cares about you. Of course your relationships will get talked about when you write songs about them and everyone knows the person you're speaking of is famous, rather than some random person unknown to the public.
It's really that simple.
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I think the issue is that every song of hers complains about some guy. It's like get some new lyrics, girl.
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I think the issue is that every song of hers complains about some guy. It's like get some new lyrics, girl.
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Hospital Icon Ha discography is more advanced than you let on. Get some new material, girl !
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I think the issue is that every song of hers complains about some guy. It's like get some new lyrics, girl.
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Wen a guy writes about personal relationships, it's confessional, relatable and emotional, when a woman ones it, she's needy and complaining. Okay 
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When you basically only date/hook up with other celebrities, it'll get talked about. You can't really compare her to other people in the industry in terms on how she's viewed and what she's called. People like Drake and other really successful artists hook up with unknowns that no one cares about you. Of course your relationships will get talked about when you write songs about them and everyone knows the person you're speaking of is famous, rather than some random person unknown to the public.
It's really that simple.
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Hmm good point. John Mayer has probably been with 3x as many people as she has, but we don't really know about it. But it's more publicity related. Many of her "dates" were most likely PR setups to promote something. I mean does anyone actually believe she really dated Taylor L right when they had a movie coming out 
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All the criticism against Taylor's love life just stems from the sexism in society and the expectation woman should be pure and innocent while men can do whatever and whoever they want. Hopefully there will be more articles like this that make people acknowledge the double standards that still exist in 2014.
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