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Discussion: RUMOR: Selena Gomez left HWR
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Originally posted by LoveInStereo
This is the part you guys aren't getting. Miley made them massive bucks and got nothing in return. Rock Mafia productions were as lavish as it got for her. Selena hasn't made even half the amount Miley did for HWR, yet she worked with the Cataracs, had 3 singles per album (vs one off of CBT), had a massive touring budget, etc. No other label is going to shell out that much money for her based on her current numbers. Unless she goes a new route and finds newfound success, she's going to get MUCH less support now than she did then. I can't with you guys
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Miley got plenty in return. She performed nearly everywhere and always got the top spots to perform at.
Selena Gomez has had ONE 3 single album! I don't know where you're getting your information.
Some of them were not sent to radio by the way versus Miley's were practically all sent to the radio.
You act like she's never had any success either. She has four singles that have nearly sold 2 million copies in the US, 3 Gold certified albums, #1 album, Top 10 single, and various awards.
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Originally posted by Starstruck.
Because they invested more in her for some reason even though the other artists had more potential.
and look where that got them, SD's sales are underwhelming for the amount of promo she got.
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HWR stopped the promo after Come & Get It was dying down. They were refusing to upload the Slow Down video to VEVO months after Slow Down was released but they were forced to when it was leaked. Slow Down got very very little promo. Take Made in the USA & Neon Lights & Replay for example, they ALL got more promo including performances + a discount (which Slow Down never got until a few weeks ago 6 months after it was released as a single).
HWR invested the least in her this era than any of their other major artists.
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Let's not forget that it's not just the possibility of more success, better promo spots, and better treatment. It's also about the freedom. She'd be able to do more, she'd get more creative freedom, & a different label would also help in her validity as an artist.
She has been HWR's biggest money maker since M. Yet she'd never get a 3rd single, and when she did, the single was handled so poorly. Two music videos for the song released 6-months apart, with zero promo for each, and the song being sent to radio months after the song had peaked. Mess.
Selena's brand name could be marketed very well with a different label, it's all about the execution, and HWR isn't capable of that.
And at all the newfound knowledge on expenditures and budgets some of these users seem to have out of nowhere. The REACH.
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Originally posted by phreshprince
-the abrupt end of the era
-her recent statement on her speech made me think, she said that until very recently she was allowing others to control what she was doing, but that changed now.
-HWR members unfollowing her
-and all the new music-related projects she's been working on
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I just noticed my comment made the OP, at least credit me bish
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Member Since: 6/7/2011
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Originally posted by 4seldemari
HWR stopped the promo after Come & Get It was dying down. They were refusing to upload the Slow Down video to VEVO months after Slow Down was released but they were forced to when it was leaked. Slow Down got very very little promo. Take Made in the USA & Neon Lights & Replay for example, they ALL got more promo including performances + a discount (which Slow Down never got until a few weeks ago 6 months after it was released as a single).
HWR invested the least in her this era than any of their other major artists.
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OMG all these lies.
C&GI got promo until the album release and it reached #2 on pop radio in JULY, why would they send a new single when the lead single is still active and climbing on radio???
They sent the single to radio in August (even the video didn't complete a month) because that was the original release and it did well so I don't see the problem? they uploaded the video to VEVO right after it leaked.
Slow Down was performed on
Jay Leno
David Letterman
X Factor USA
Good Morning America
Kelly And Michael
Macy's 4th of July
Dallas Cowboys halftime show
The View
she even went to the UK and performed it too.
am i missing something? how is that very very little promo? I also didn't mention C&GI's promo and how much money they put into her video and how she worked with major producers.
they spent a lot of money on Selena than any of artists before and try to prove me wrong. I'll wait.
you guys are literally making up a lot of lies and you need to stop the label handled her well.
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Originally posted by Starstruck.
OMG all these lies.
C&GI got promo until the album release and it reached #2 on pop radio in JULY, why would they send a new single when the lead single is still active and climbing on radio???
They sent the single to radio in August (even the video didn't complete a month) because that was the original release and it did well so I don't see the problem? they uploaded the video to VEVO right after it leaked.
Slow Down was performed on
Jay Leno
David Letterman
X Factor USA
Good Morning America
Kelly And Michael
Macy's 4th of July
Dallas Cowboys halftime show
The View
she even went to the UK and performed it too.
am i missing something? how is that very very little promo? I also didn't mention C&GI's promo and how much money they put into her video and how she worked with major producers.
they spent a lot of money on Selena than any of artists before and try to prove me wrong. I'll wait.
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Originally posted by fanboyn8
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I just posted the receipts for this era alone and I didn't post them all.
now YOU try to prove me that Miley was handled better.
Demi's first two eras were treated like ****, they didn't even send her singles to radio and she didn't have proper releases etc. I could go on but this is Selena's thread.
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Originally posted by Starstruck.
I just posted the receipts for this era alone and I didn't post them all.
now YOU try to prove me that Miley was handled better.
Demi's first two eras were treated like ****, they didn't even send her singles to radio and she didn't have proper releases etc. I could go on but this is Selena's thread.
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None of their artists have been treated fairly, ever. But to say that Selena received the best treatment from any artist ever is QUITE the reach . If performance spots are any indication of how much money is spent, then M definitively takes the cake, PITUSA & many of her singles were performed on many places of high stature. And D has 3 singles out and is on her way to the 4th, ALL 3 of which received promo and were on televised performances.
Maybe the reason S received superior treatment to D (although I disagree) is because her first album performed better. DF took years to snatch gold, while K&T did it in months and peaked at like 990K(almost a mill).
Anyways, all of this is off-topic so just write on my wall if you want to discuss.
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I'm still pressed at the fact that undercover & Stars Dance will never be able to see the light of day if this is true.
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Good for her
I don't understand why all of you had to bring Demi and Miley into this... This is about Selena's career, and even if you think she was treated the best out of any HWR act, you have to admit that she can get better management elsewhere.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Slow Down
Mte.
The promotion isn't even the entire problem with HWR. It's the overall quality of the videos & music. C&GI was her first & only video to actually look like it had a decent budget. The album & single covers for all their artists also look so basic & cheap.
On top of all that, their promo plans are terrible. Slow Down's video leaked 2 months before they decided to act on it & release it as a single & service it to radio. When the single finally climbed up the iTunes chart & stalled, they missed a huge opportunity for a discount that would've propelled it even higher. The only thing I think they've done correctly, promo wise, was with Demi's HA release which built a lot of hype up until it got leaked.
Saying Selena got treated like a major pop girl is delusion at it's finest. She did get quite a few promo spots but let's be real... What is a promo spot on The View going to do for an artist catering to a younger demographic?
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Selena's main demo is her young fans, but she's also trying to reach older people just like her peers so yes those promo spots did do something hence why it went on to sell 2 million
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Originally posted by fanboyn8
None of their artists have been treated fairly, ever. But to say that Selena received the best treatment from any artist ever is QUITE the reach . If performance spots are any indication of how much money is spent, then M definitively takes the cake, PITUSA & many of her singles were performed on many places of high stature. And D has 3 singles out and is on her way to the 4th, ALL 3 of which received promo and were on televised performances.
Maybe the reason S received superior treatment to D (although I disagree) is because her first album performed better. DF took years to snatch gold, while K&T did it in months and peaked at like 990K(almost a mill).
Anyways, all of this is off-topic so just write on my wall if you want to discuss.
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Selena worked with the cataracs and stargate Miley only worked with Dr. Luke and she didn't even perform her singles a lot, you only think she got treated better because she's more famous. her debut single didn't even get a video.
PITUSA's biggest performance was the TCA's DF took years to go gold because none of her singles were promoted and were sent to mainstream radio unlike Naturally but yet Don't Forget sold over a million with only one performance and it was on Ellen.
K&T is at 920k not 990k. this just seals the deal that you have no idea what you're talking about.
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Originally posted by Starstruck.
Because they invested more in her for some reason even though the other artists had more potential.
and look where that got them, SD's sales are underwhelming for the amount of promo she got.
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Let's not. Labels don't pay any money if an artist is invited to perform somewhere. (Macy's 4th Of July, Dallas Cowboys Half-time show, and award shows.)
So basically HWR sent her to perform for Jay Leno, GMA, Letterman, The View, and Kelly & Michael.
Just like the promo Demi got from them. Also, let's not forget the amount of times Demi's singles and albums were discounted this era at their peaks on radio. While Selena only got her discounts AFTER the songs have completely died. Yet Selena's sales are still higher. So if anyone is bringing them less money this era, it's Demi cause of the endless discounts.
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the dedication.
The delusion of people saying HWR treated Selena the best of all their artists. I ****ing wish. CAGI & LYLALS have been their best handled singles, and they're also her most successful so that's indication enough for me. Y'all don't know how many headaches we've had to endure with them basically pulling her to the pits. A small discount or promo for Slow Down when it was peaking on the top 20 of iTunes would have made it a CAGI-level smash, but of course they didn't. They did it for their other artists though, and it worked. Just because she sells better doesn't mean she deserves less promo.
I still thank HWR for giving her a start, but let's face it, she has grown out of them. Now let's just wait for the queen to return with her secret project & slay our souls.
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I'm really exited. She was one of the main priorities on HWR but that label comes off completely unprofessional.
I mean that rush release of C&GI when it leaked was a mess. People weren't able to find the actual single version but a free version on some random podcast
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Originally posted by TeamSelenaMarie
the dedication.
The delusion of people saying HWR treated Selena the best of all their artists. I ****ing wish. CAGI & LYLALS have been their best handled singles, and they're also her most successful so that's indication enough for me. Y'all don't know how many headaches we've had to endure with them basically pulling her to the pits. A small discount or promo for Slow Down when it was peaking on the top 20 of iTunes would have made it a CAGI-level smash, but of course they didn't. They did it for their other artists though, and it worked. Just because she sells better doesn't mean she deserves less promo.
I still thank HWR for giving her a start, but let's face it, she has grown out of them. Now let's just wait for the queen to return with her secret project & slay our souls.
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Originally posted by Jozip
I'm really exited. She was one of the main priorities on HWR but that label comes off completely unprofessional.
I mean that rush release of C&GI when it leaked was a mess. People weren't able to find the actual single version but a free version on some random podcast
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it's all the little things that'd always piss me off
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Originally posted by Starstruck.
OMG all these lies.
C&GI got promo until the album release and it reached #2 on pop radio in JULY, why would they send a new single when the lead single is still active and climbing on radio???
They sent the single to radio in August (even the video didn't complete a month) because that was the original release and it did well so I don't see the problem? they uploaded the video to VEVO right after it leaked.
Slow Down was performed on
Jay Leno
David Letterman
X Factor USA
Good Morning America
Kelly And Michael
Macy's 4th of July
Dallas Cowboys halftime show
The View
she even went to the UK and performed it too.
am i missing something? how is that very very little promo? I also didn't mention C&GI's promo and how much money they put into her video and how she worked with major producers.
they spent a lot of money on Selena than any of artists before and try to prove me wrong. I'll wait.
you guys are literally making up a lot of lies and you need to stop the label handled her well.
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CAGI was handled well but Slow Down WAS NOT.
It's not necessarily about how many performances she got, it's about the popularity and the views of the show. Who watches The View? Older citizens...and how likely are they to buy her song? Not very likely.
Kelly & Michael isn't necessarily god or bad promo but it's something.
HWR did not organize the Dallas Half time show. NFL or whoever was in charge of that hired her because of her connection and relatedness to the younger folk. This was said by them and if you look it up, you will see. GMA was literally a day after the release of the album and before Slow Down was even announced. She performed a variety of songs there so you can't say it was promo for Slow Down.
Did you not see that HWR did not promote the Slow Down video. They didn't tweet it, Facebook it, Instagram it or anything. They had no teasers or announcements at all. All they did was RT ONE tweet that VEVO posted that had the link and THAT'S IT!
You seem to be neglecting the fact that none of her singles were discounted this era up until a few weeks ago along with everyone else's (for the second time).
She has two singles this era whereas the other major artist is having 4, worked with major producers as well, got more promo (music video, performances, mentions by HWR and etc...)
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Originally posted by Starstruck.
Selena worked with the cataracs and stargate Miley only worked with Dr. Luke and she didn't even perform her singles a lot, you only think she got treated better because she's more famous. her debut single didn't even get a video.
PITUSA's biggest performance was the TCA's DF took years to go gold because none of her singles were promoted and were sent to mainstream radio unlike Naturally but yet Don't Forget sold over a million with only one performance and it was on Ellen.
K&T is at 920k not 990k. this just seals the deal that you have no idea what you're talking about.
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Naturaly ah yes...however you're neglecting how Falling Down was paid dust, DUST! It got NOTHING! And they didn't upload it to VEVO until the same time as Naturally
About your point about K&T
http://www.awesomelyluvvie.com/wp-co...y-Receipts.gif
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Yas Selena! Move onto bigger and better things...
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Originally posted by heckinglovato
I know right? the producers, the writers, the releases, the endless amount of promo slots, the radio deals, the radio adds (which they didn't do to most of their artists prior 2010), the remixes, the music video treatments...
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They only do that for her because it gets them money. They dont give other artists that promo because they dont yield the sales Selena does. Y'all are shading Selena for selling more than her labelmates. The logic
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