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Poll: Is Hollywood Records In Trouble?
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yes
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49.15% |
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No. queen Z Legend B and Queen Bridgit will slay the charts
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23.73% |
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buy demi on itunes
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15.25% |
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buy stars dance on itunes
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11.86% |
Member Since: 9/10/2011
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Originally posted by onna
Those aren't $1 either, y'all want all of this stuff when Demi doesn't really bring much in. She's gotten the same amount of singles as some artists & still can't squeeze past 400k in the US while they pass 1,000,000
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If Selena actually leaves HWR she would still bring in the most money for them by a BIG margin.
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Member Since: 6/22/2012
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Originally posted by Miley Cyrus
Made In The USA was discounted on several occasions and failed to become a hit. What's your excuse for that??  |
It's a **** song & isn't single material. It's pretty simple really
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Um streaming wasn't as huge back during demi's debut so it's unfair to compare it to sales in 2013 after reports of a major decline 
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Member Since: 6/20/2012
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Originally posted by Flare
*During Disney's prime when Hannah could have coughed on a song and it would go platinum. Let's not. Oh and Camp Rock was a big deal, not sure if you remember that.  |
Then why can Demi still cough platinum and multi-platinum songs? And without Disney's airplay? 
Demi and Selena have had flop singles when Disney was "in its prime" it's no excuse.
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Member Since: 6/22/2012
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Originally posted by Flare
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It's easier to go platinum now compared to back then, because streaming counts towards certifications
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Rob_Matteo
If Selena actually leaves HWR she would still bring in the most money for them by a BIG margin.
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No sh*t sherlock all of their other artists after Demi and Selena are almost unknown to the GP
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Member Since: 6/20/2012
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Originally posted by Miley Cyrus
Um streaming wasn't as huge back during demi's debut so it's unfair to compare it to sales in 2013 after reports of a major decline |
So the decline now caused Demi's non-single back then that wasn't sent for radio-adds, wasn't promoted on TV and barely got any Youtube views to sell 1M effortlessly and Zendaya's single that was sent for radio adds and kept tussling on pop radio for months with MONTHS of iTunes discounts to finally push 1M copies? Nonsense.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by heckinglovato
Then why can Demi still cough platinum and multi-platinum songs? And without Disney's airplay?
Demi and Selena have had flop singles when Disney was "in its prime" it's no excuse. |
Demi cannot "cough" a platinum single. She gets promo, tons of radio support and requesting via her fans. Let's not once again.
Additionally, Demi and Selena still have underperforming singles today so, I'm not sure where you're going with that piece of the argument. The point I made was that, you cannot compare Zendaya's debut to Demi, Selena or Miley's debut. Disney had WAY more influence back then. The movie and TV show ratings back that up in comparison to, today.
Zendaya did well with what she got in this day and age and to downplay that or compare it to Demi's numbers is just stupid. They are two different generations of Disney.
Note: It was Lovatics first in this thread comparing Zendaya to Demi even though the OP CLEARLY states, Demi doesn't count in this discussion.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Flare
*During Disney's prime when Hannah could have coughed on a song and it would go platinum. Let's not. Oh and Camp Rock was a big deal, not sure if you remember that. |
Her only platinum album and I'm sure that was because of the Jonas Brothers
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by Flare
Demi cannot "cough" a platinum single. She gets promo, tons of radio support and requesting via her fans. Let's not once again.
Additionally, Demi and Selena still have underperforming singles today so, I'm not sure where you're going with that piece of the argument. The point I made was that, you cannot compare Zendaya's debut to Demi, Selena or Miley's debut. Disney had WAY more influence back then. The movie and TV show ratings back that up in comparison to, today.
Zendaya did well with what she got in this day and age and to downplay that or compare it to Demi's numbers is just stupid. They are two different generations of Disney.
Note: It was Lovatics first in this thread comparing Zendaya to Demi even though the OP CLEARLY states, Demi doesn't count in this discussion. |
All of this 
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by BlazingLovatic
It's easier to go platinum now compared to back then, because streaming counts towards certifications
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Good thing Zendaya went platinum in DIGITAL SALES, and not streaming.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Flare
Demi cannot "cough" a platinum single. She gets promo, tons of radio support and requesting via her fans. Let's not once again.
Additionally, Demi and Selena still have underperforming singles today so, I'm not sure where you're going with that piece of the argument. The point I made was that, you cannot compare Zendaya's debut to Demi, Selena or Miley's debut. Disney had WAY more influence back then. The movie and TV show ratings back that up in comparison to, today.
Zendaya did well with what she got in this day and age and to downplay that or compare it to Demi's numbers is just stupid. They are two different generations of Disney.
Note: It was Lovatics first in this thread comparing Zendaya to Demi even though the OP CLEARLY states, Demi doesn't count in this discussion. |
Can Lovatics STOP now? OK, we get it, Demi is a global superstar, all of her singles are 2x Diamond, her album sold 8 million copies worldwide. Can you go away now?
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Member Since: 6/20/2012
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Originally posted by Flare
Demi cannot "cough" a platinum single. She gets promo, tons of radio support and requesting via her fans. Let's not once again.
Additionally, Demi and Selena still have underperforming singles today so, I'm not sure where you're going with that piece of the argument. The point I made was that, you cannot compare Zendaya's debut to Demi, Selena or Miley's debut. Disney had WAY more influence back then. The movie and TV show ratings back that up in comparison to, today.
Zendaya did well with what she got in this day and age and to downplay that or compare it to Demi's numbers is just stupid. They are two different generations of Disney.
Note: It was Lovatics first in this thread comparing Zendaya to Demi even though the OP CLEARLY states, Demi doesn't count in this discussion. |
The decline, as I stated here
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Originally posted by heckinglovato
So the decline now caused Demi's non-single back then that wasn't sent for radio-adds, wasn't promoted on TV and barely got any Youtube views to sell 1M effortlessly and Zendaya's single that was sent for radio adds and kept tussling on pop radio for months with MONTHS of iTunes discounts to finally push 1M copies? Nonsense.
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Isn't the exact excuse you'd want to cover up for Zendaya's 50k-selling album and platinum single after all these discounts, a radio add and a 50M-streaming music video (with an additional acoustic music video) and some TV performances.
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
Posts: 20,932
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if both Selena & Demi leaves they will be in trouble! But their decline started when Hilary and then with Miley left... tbh
 at Zendaya fans coming for Demi wings while she hasn't even sold 1/20 of what Demi sold and she isn't even know except for those 3 countries where Replay is doing decent numbers ....
not shade tbh, i don't even know her - here in Italy she isn't famous at all - while Demi is at least known.
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Member Since: 6/20/2012
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Originally posted by Eglė
Can Lovatics STOP now? OK, we get it, Demi is a global superstar, all of her singles are 2x Diamond, her album sold 8 million copies worldwide. Can you go away now?
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We're not intending to show any of Demi's star-power as much as we're clearing up the false statements about Zendaya being "HWR's saver". But have a nice Friday. 
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Member Since: 12/13/2011
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They're attached to DISNEY people. Who do you think is getting SOME if not ALL the support for Frozen soundtrack? They'll do just fine.
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Member Since: 6/22/2012
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Originally posted by Flare
Demi cannot "cough" a platinum single. She gets promo, tons of radio support and requesting via her fans. Let's not once again.
Additionally, Demi and Selena still have underperforming singles today so, I'm not sure where you're going with that piece of the argument. The point I made was that, you cannot compare Zendaya's debut to Demi, Selena or Miley's debut. Disney had WAY more influence back then. The movie and TV show ratings back that up in comparison to, today.
Zendaya did well with what she got in this day and age and to downplay that or compare it to Demi's numbers is just stupid. They are two different generations of Disney.
Note: It was Lovatics first in this thread comparing Zendaya to Demi even though the OP CLEARLY states, Demi doesn't count in this discussion. |
Demi has:
4 1x gold singles
5 1x platinum singles
2 2x platinum singles
1 3x platinum single
1 4x platinum single
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 1/21/2012
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I'm fairly sure this thread started as a discussion on whether or not HWR is in trouble, not as a Selena vs Demi vs Zendaya thread.
Anyway, this went way off the rails. Closed.
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 6/23/2008
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They seem to survive with one or two moderate hits per year. I don't think this will make or break Hollywood Records. 
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