never was a hater, darling, and didn't say anything against Beyonce (especially here, if you haven't noticed, but oh, it looks like you're aren't able to notice...)
goodbye then, have a talk on another 5 pages since I leave
You're right in some respects. She has always been there. She has been on top of the music scene since 1997. Even with her underperforming album she still sold more than most it girls, pop girls, and people with what were regarded as "successful" eras.
What he/she is trying to say is that back in the day Beyonce was more like a Pink in the present, always selling more than ALMOST everyone, but she never had that much attention WW until the past few years, she is respected, but her celebrity level didn't really go up until she announced her pregnancy and well the whole 2013. She was a Pink before the past few years, she was always just there.
I'm not about to read through 20+ pages of what I'm sure is MESS, but the answer to the OP is yes. In my 20 years on this planet, Beyoncé is by far the biggest star to rise during my time.
when you think about it she was the it girl for 00's decade entirely;
BEYONCE career peak lasted from 2000-2009 aint nobody gonna lie and say other wise.
2000: Say My Name . the sophomore album ended up selling 15M WW
2001-2002: DC was the hit act to me. they released Survivor (album) -> +10M WW, Independent W was #1 11 weeks in a row. Bootylicious #1 too -> Oxford Dictionnary ... Survivor #2 in US, #1 UK and save thousands of suicidals included Alanis Morissette (she said it herself)
2003: well........... Crazy In Love, Baby Boy (17 Weeks at #1 combined ) , ... DIL sold nearly 10M WW
2004-2005: DC reunion slayage! 7M WW. Biggest female group tour at that time
2006-2007: Dreamgirls, B'Day slayage, Check On It effortless RADIO-destruction +200M Al, The Beyoncé Experience Live sold 900k WW. I mean who else sold that much DVD (except ADELE & Michael Jackson). Irreplaceable song of year by Billboard (10 weeks at #1)
2008: I AM ICONIC FIERCE came like a wrecking ball and converted whitey to Beyoncé music -> 7.7M WW.
2009: I Am Tour.... Single Ladies dance craze. Halo slayage. vma Video of the year , kanyegate .......
2010: close the decade with 6 GRAMMYs slayage
Who else has that consistency
I can even go on because 2011 was like her breakthrough into the Social Web universe (pregnancy etc...)
2012 was her emptiest year ever tho beyhydritation
2013: her biggest tour, superbowl slay, pepsi deal, "oh well, sold not for sale".... SURPRISE!!!!!!
seriously? Why do you feel the need to confine Bey to an "urban" or "black community" or "BET" girl? Why are you acting like pop music is superior to "r&b"/hip-pop music? Also, why are you ignoring the receipts Ressti provided? If by "it girl" you mean being on cover of tabloid magazines for scandals, drugs&alcohol addiction, etc.. then Bey definitely was&is not an it girl. However, if you mean sales, acclaim, respect, popular, awards, etc.., then she has been the IT girl since her debut. Bey has been outselling Brit, Avril, Xtina, and all those other "pop" acts since 2003 and is showing no signs of fading. So STFU, and no matter how how much threads and posts you make to discredit her, she's always "been there" and will always be here while these so called "it girls" come and go.
seriously? Why do you feel the need to confine Bey to an "urban" or "black community" or "BET" girl? Why are you acting like pop music is superior to "r&b"/hip-pop music? Also, why are you ignoring the receipts Ressti provided? If by "it girl" you mean being on cover of tabloid magazines for scandals, drugs&alcohol addiction, etc.. then Bey definitely was&is not an it girl. However, if you mean sales, acclaim, respect, popular, awards, etc.., then she has been the IT girl since her debut. Bey has been outselling Brit, Avril, Xtina, and all those other "pop" acts since 2003 and is showing no signs of fading. So STFU, and no matter how how much threads and posts you make to discredit her, she's always "been there" and will always be here while these so called "it girls" come and go.
Where did I say pop was superior to R&B? Acutally R&B is always more acclaimed than pop music, pop music is a joke many times. As for Beyonce been the it girl in the black urban community its true, she's always been the biggest on that area, ain't nothing wrong with that. But her popularity has always been more targeted to the black community that's why she sells 80% of her albums in the US than in the rest of the world. After 2009 with IASF she went pop and started getting more popularity with the public in general, which is were she is now.
when you think about it she was the it girl for 00's decade entirely;
BEYONCE career peak lasted from 2000-2009 aint nobody gonna lie and say other wise.
2000: Say My Name . the sophomore album ended up selling 15M WW
2001-2002: DC was the hit act to me. they released Survivor (album) -> +10M WW, Independent W was #1 11 weeks in a row. Bootylicious #1 too -> Oxford Dictionnary ... Survivor #2 in US, #1 UK and save thousands of suicidals included Alanis Morissette (she said it herself)
2003: well........... Crazy In Love, Baby Boy (17 Weeks at #1 combined ) , ... DIL sold nearly 10M WW
2004-2005: DC reunion slayage! 7M WW. Biggest female group tour at that time
2006-2007: Dreamgirls, B'Day slayage, Check On It effortless RADIO-destruction +200M Al, The Beyoncé Experience Live sold 900k WW. I mean who else sold that much DVD (except ADELE & Michael Jackson). Irreplaceable song of year by Billboard (10 weeks at #1)
2008: I AM ICONIC FIERCE came like a wrecking ball and converted whitey to Beyoncé music -> 7.7M WW.
2009: I Am Tour.... Single Ladies dance craze. Halo slayage. vma Video of the year , kanyegate .......
2010: close the decade with 6 GRAMMYs slayage
Who else has that consistency
I can even go on because 2011 was like her breakthrough into the Social Web universe (pregnancy etc...)
2012 was her emptiest year ever tho beyhydritation
2013: her biggest tour, superbowl slay, pepsi deal, "oh well, sold not for sale".... SURPRISE!!!!!!
Awesome but this thread its about ''it'' status, not her consistent career, same as Ressti's post
I don't understand why this even being debated. The answer is a simple, yes. And I would argue that she still is. You don't need to be selling masses of records to be the 'it' girl, the fact she is heavily respected in the industry by her peers is enough reason to certify her as the it girl. Also, she's one artist that is constantly being praised by the public, even by those who aren't a fan of her music - simply out of respect, and recognition for her undeniable talent.
Where did I say pop was superior to R&B? Acutally R&B is always more acclaimed than pop music, pop music is a joke many times. As for Beyonce been the it girl in the black urban community its true, she's always been the biggest on that area, ain't nothing wrong with that. But her popularity has always been more targeted to the black community that's why she sells 80% of her albums in the US than in the rest of the world. After 2009 with IASF she went pop and started getting more popularity with the public in general, which is were she is now.
STFU, Bey isn't just limited to the black community and stop ignoring the post Ressti posted, which showed Bey has always been popular. She is not tabloid star popular, but she is the most popular and respected artist of her generation, where it really matters. Also, you know that waaay less than 80% of Bey's sales comes from the US. Plus if there was something wrong about your strongest market being in the US, then all these international acts won't be so desperate to break the US.
Awesome but this thread its about ''it'' status, not her consistent career, same as Ressti's post
Great achievements!
please explain this "it girl" status because you were claiming that Miley was the "it girl" of 2013 when she can't even outsell gaga world wide during her downfall.
STFU, Bey isn't just limited to the black community and stop ignoring the post Ressti posted, which showed Bey has always been popular. She is not tabloid star popular, but she is the most popular and respected artist of her generation, where it really matters. Also, you know that waaay less than 80% of Bey's sales comes from the US. Plus if there was something wrong about your strongest market being in the US, then all these international acts won't be so desperate to break the US.
Why are you so bothered man? No one said being popular in the US is a bad thing, the problem with you and her entire fan-base is that she needs to be on top of everything and everyone, the moment a person says otherwise you go nuts, and she is not on top of everything and everyone, there are a lot of areas where other people are in top of her, like this one.
aint nobody gonna lie and say other wise.
(she said it herself)
) , ... DIL sold nearly 10M WW
-> 7.7M WW.
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