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Poll: Michael Jackson or Madonna?
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View Poll Results: MJ or Madonna?
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Michael
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51.30% |
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Madonna
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Becky G
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Madonna. If you see one MJ performance,you've seen them all.
She's a better artist and performer and has the better music to me. Not that this matters but she obviously outlasted him when he was alive too.
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Originally posted by kingmichael
I'm going for Michael of course. I also love Madonna but Michael especially at his peak was just on whole another level of uber fame that you only see once in a lifetime. His peak was far bigger than her's, numbers don't lie. Bigger album sales, more awards, more respect, etc. His influence and impact on pop culture is bigger than hers overall as well. He practically defined the term pop star influencing just about every male and female pop star that came after him. Madonna also had tremendous influence/impact but it's mostly limited to females cuz realistically how many male artists can you think of that cite Madonna as an influence. I also feel like Michael's major iconic moments (good or bad) are more well known than Madonna's iconic moments. The only thing she has over him is her consistency and longevity since everyone knows that Michael was irrelevant to the music scene of the 2000's whereas Madonna was and still is smashing with her tours and albums.
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His peak was bigger and he's still more relevant than Madonna.
When you go to Disneyland he's the one who has an attraction there.
Facts are facts.
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I'd never gotten into MJ's music, I respect him very much, he's not King of Pop for nothing, but I don't use him.
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Originally posted by mdnazn
I prefer Madonna because I'm gay 
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Originally posted by kingmichael
I'm going for Michael of course. I also love Madonna but Michael especially at his peak was just on whole another level of uber fame that you only see once in a lifetime. His peak was far bigger than her's, numbers don't lie. Bigger album sales, more awards, more respect, etc. His influence and impact on pop culture is bigger than hers overall as well. He practically defined the term pop star influencing just about every male and female pop star that came after him. Madonna also had tremendous influence/impact but it's mostly limited to females cuz realistically how many male artists can you think of that cite Madonna as an influence. I also feel like Michael's major iconic moments (good or bad) are more well known than Madonna's iconic moments. The only thing she has over him is her consistency and longevity since everyone knows that Michael was irrelevant to the music scene of the 2000's whereas Madonna was and still is smashing with her tours and albums.
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U better teach them! 
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Originally posted by Nicole
His peak was bigger and he's still more relevant than Madonna.
When you go to Disneyland he's the one who has an attraction there.
Facts are facts.
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He has a Disneyland attraction?  Who knew? What kind of flop stan am I? I also forgot to mention he makes more $$$ in his death than she is living.
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Originally posted by Frozen99
I'd never gotten into MJ's music, I respect him very much, he's not King of Pop for nothing, but I don't use him.
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Basically me too tbh
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Madonna is a huge, huge star
But compared to Michael she's nothing, lol. Lets be real.
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Madonna has the better discography so her.
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This whole thread is so ridiclious.
At the end of the day Madonna vs Michael.
- Who was the star that was universally panned as odd and strange?
- Who was the star who couldn't handle the pressure of fame so much so that he became reclusive?
-Who was the star that was surrounded in awful allegations?
-Who was the star that has constantly changed their appearence due the pressure of fame?
- Who was the star that almost went bankrupt?
-Who was the star that went on television to talk about how there was a plot against him in America?
- Who's family are living off the finances that were made (because that's all he had) after his death?
-Who was the star who's children attempted to commit suicide?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...e-attempt.html
You can talk about the days of yore where michael inflated his sales with discounts all you like. At the end of the day Madonna is a better musicican, a better artist, a better performer (she has versatility), a better singer (she sings her stuff live mostly) she's a better parent AND a stronger person.
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Originally posted by Dark_Lorde
This whole thread is so ridiclious.
At the end of the day Madonna vs Michael.
- Who was the star that was universally panned as odd and strange?
- Who was the star who couldn't handle the pressure of fame so much so that he became reclusive?
-Who was the star that was surrounded in awful allegations?
-Who was the star that has constantly changed their appearence due the pressure of fame?
- Who was the star that almost went bankrupt?
-Who was the star that went on television to talk about how there was a plot against him in America?
- Who's family are living off the finances that were made (because that's all he had) after his death?
-Who was the star who's children attempted to commit suicide?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...e-attempt.html
You can talk about the days of yore where michael inflated his sales with discounts all you like. At the end of the day Madonna is a better musicican, a better artist, a better performer (she has versatility), a better singer (she sings her stuff live mostly) she's a better parent AND a stronger person.
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Stop. Shut the **** up.
This post just makes me sick.
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Originally posted by Dark_Lorde
This whole thread is so ridiclious.
At the end of the day Madonna vs Michael.
- Who was the star that was universally panned as odd and strange?
- Who was the star who couldn't handle the pressure of fame so much so that he became reclusive?
-Who was the star that was surrounded in awful allegations?
-Who was the star that has constantly changed their appearence due the pressure of fame?
- Who was the star that almost went bankrupt?
-Who was the star that went on television to talk about how there was a plot against him in America?
- Who's family are living off the finances that were made (because that's all he had) after his death?
-Who was the star who's children attempted to commit suicide?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...e-attempt.html
You can talk about the days of yore where michael inflated his sales with discounts all you like. At the end of the day Madonna is a better musicican, a better artist, a better performer (she has versatility), a better singer (she sings her stuff live mostly) she's a better parent AND a stronger person.
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The musician and artistic stuff is subjective not facts. I'm sure you're aware that there are many greatest artists lists that Michael outranked Madonna on. As far as facts and stats go he did still sell more albums (discounts  you must be confusing him with Katy or someone else), won more awards, was more famous and had more influence/impact than she did. There is a reason why he is called the King of Pop and gets lessers pressed because they know that they can't talk s*** about his sales/accomplishments, etc because realistically no one except for the Beatles or Elvis can even rival him in that area so instead haters nitpick his personal life because that's the only thing they can do.
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Michael is faaaaaar better than Madonna in nearly every way. I have tried and tried to get into Madonna's music, I have watched her performances and listened to pretty much all her albums but she is just not on the same level as MJ. His dancing, singing, music and videos will forever remain great.
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Originally posted by kingmichael
The musician and artistic stuff is subjective not facts. I'm sure you're aware that there are many greatest artists lists that Michael outranked Madonna on. As far as facts and stats go he did still sell more albums (discounts  you must be confusing him with Katy or someone else), won more awards, was more famous and had more influence/impact than she did. There is a reason why he is called the King of Pop and gets lessers pressed because they know that they can't talk s*** about his sales/accomplishments, etc because realistically no one except for the Beatles or Elvis can even rival him in that area so instead haters nitpick his personal life because that's the only thing they can do.
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Sure, much more commercial success. Still - Michael vs Madonna. - Madonna every time. Why? - see above
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Originally posted by kingmichael
The musician and artistic stuff is subjective not facts. I'm sure you're aware that there are many greatest artists lists that Michael outranked Madonna on. As far as facts and stats go he did still sell more albums (discounts  you must be confusing him with Katy or someone else), won more awards, was more famous and had more influence/impact than she did. There is a reason why he is called the King of Pop and gets lessers pressed because they know that they can't talk s*** about his sales/accomplishments, etc because realistically no one except for the Beatles or Elvis can even rival him in that area so instead haters nitpick his personal life because that's the only thing they can do.
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Michael called me one day and said, “I want to have a nickname, like ‘The Boss’ or ‘The King.’” I said, “Well, Bruce Springsteen is ‘The Boss,’ and Elvis Presley is ‘The King.’
You can’t be the King because you’ll never live it down. The press will rip you apart.”
But Michael would not let this go. He hired his own personal publicist, Bob Jones.
And one day, Bob issued a press release announcing that Michael Jackson was the King of Pop.
Michael went rogue on us.
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read more http://www.buzzfeed.com/perpetua/why...he-king-of-pop
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Originally posted by Lover
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Yes, and that nickname would not have stuck if nobody believed it.
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Originally posted by Dark_Lorde
ARTISTICALLY, Madonna is far superior to Michael Jackson.
It’s undeniable: Jackson spent his entire solo career repeating his own music, the same formula over and over again. His catalog is musically limited. There is nothing “artistic” about repeating the same formula or redoing the same things, especially if the purpose is to achieve the same commercial success as in the days of yore.
On the other hand, Madonna’s musical catalog is endlessly superior, richer and more varied than Michael Jackson’s. Madonna’s body of work is a reflection of her creativity, she truly has an artistic soul. Not only has she changed the direction of her musical work in every step she took, but she also took real artistic risks rarely seen in the business.
It’s rather perplexing how Madonna’s incredible artistic endeavors are overlooked, while Jacskon who repeated his formual is praised and referred to as “amazing”. What’s amazing about singing the same music and performing them the same way for 20 years? Madonna, at the peak of her fame and commercial success (with the Blond Ambition) was transitioning into her Erotica Era! That is what’s called a real artistic and creative risk! Madonna has always created different ways of expressing herself while poking the society at the same time.
People mistake their personal taste with reality. For those who disagree with the fact that Madonna is far superior to Michael Jackson, argue this:
Rock With You, Beat it, Thriller, Billie Jean, Bad, Smooth Criminal, Remember the Time, Black or White, You Rock My World… they are all great, but no one can deny they all sound the same (and these are songs from 1979 to 2001). In comparison, Madonna’s delivered Lucky Star, Into the Groove, Papa Don’t Preach, La Isla Bonita, Like a Prayer, Vogue, Erotica, Secret, Ray of Light, Music - you can’t get a catalog richer than that.
Madonna’s body of work is endlessly superior to Michael Jackson’s. Let their music speak for itself.
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The fact that the Madonna songs you listed sound more Alike then those Michael songs. 
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