Fantastic, for ONCE the weirdos uploading YouTube videos there even though the whole world can access them at any time for free just came in handy.

I mean I could have gone into detail about how sampling something that is forbidden to be used in music even within their own culture is ignorant but I kept it nice.

lol

Not everyone has the same social justice standards. It would be like the rest of the world bending over backwards to accommodate Catholic viewpoints because the pope is apparently still someone that people pay attention to. When you censor something because people ask you to, it sets a precedent for more censorship, and eventually perfectly legitimate messages & ideas will be lost for fear of ever making anyone uncomfortable.

Read "1984" and "Brave New World." I'm not just trying to be controversial. I have a lot of respect for the trash that the Muslim community has put up with, especially in a whitewashed culture fearing post-9/11 world, but I don't believe they deserve special treatment in situations that nobody bats an eyelash over when it comes to other religions. It would be like if South Park was worried about offending group X and never mentioned them again even though the premise of that show is inclusivity in their comedy.

GsD is too high, they have a hit but you never know how things will turn out

KARA's dropping

There's no way BEG is that low. And After School is not really that successful but no chance in hell they're in the same tier as Nine Muses and Dalshabet

Mr.Mr is bombing digitally. I will be surprised if it exceeds 750,000 downloads. Falling Off The Gaon Chart teas.

I actually understand what you're saying, and honestly you make a good point. I somewhat agree, but the Quran is something that muslims don't mess with themselves, let alone people outside of the religion, and I just don't think it should be up to CL/YG/Teddy (take your pick) to force that progression. It just seemed a bit pointless... like, apart from being aesthetically pleasing, what was the point of including the Quran?

I don't think they did it intentionally (as in "let's be controversial", evidenced by YG taking out the samples), I think they included it because it sounded cool without realising what is acceptable and what is not in terms of what they were actually sampling. If they actually had an idea in mind of making a statement with the sample then what you're saying would be a lot more applicable but this is all just unnecessary drama for YG.

I mean, there's commandments that say not to use the lord's name in vain, but that never stopped anyone. It just seems...weird to me.

Oh wow, the wait is only 4 days for this mini.

I do get a kick out of multiple SM family members being at encores together.

I agree with you that there are some religions and cultures that have to change a few things (I mean most of us here are LGBT and we're invested in a homophobic country ) but "the Quran must never be recited with music" isn't hurting anyone to my knowledge and it's a rule that we can respect and leave alone. There are literally billions of other sounds and noises out there that we can incorporate into music and I don't see why we need to have that one recital that is off limits.

It's 3AM and I want to go to bed but I do appreciate the chat Belle.

All I'm saying is there's a lot of other religions out there with similar rules that we as a collective society simply don't acknowledge (or in some cases, respect or leave alone, particularly w/r/t the example I mentioned), so I don't think this one is special or any different. It just seems like the relationship between outside cultures and Islam is a particularly hot button issue post-9/11 because it was only then that a lot of people (read: basically whites, lol) became aware of it (despite it being one of the older and most populous religions).

I think that both sides are going through an adjustment period full of awkward points.

I LOST IT AT SUNNY ROLLING

It kinda annoys me that 4minute almost NEVER has a concept for their own, also there's a lack of iconic dance moves What's Your Name's "call me" dance move is an exception and that's why the song is kinda popular

Electronic, club scene is what they're known for.

Mirror Mirror's dance is iconic too bad it was banned and they had to change it twice.


Is It Poppin got banned from KBS. Volume Up had controversy. Korea just can't handle tbh

Cube totally has groups geared towards the international market (HyunA/4Minute, B2ST, G.NA)...why they seem to be so provincial is BEYOND

BLAME YG
They don't want to lose against SNSD, so it's better to just take off the list
The same thing they did in Inkigayo last week