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News: Britain is sued by 14 Caribbean nations for slavery
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Originally posted by GreasyBruce
Don't compare the two, slavery was not about eradicating African people, their culture and history from the world (and remember the African countries were involved in the slave trade and sold their own people). Both horrific and inexcusable but very different.
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I get your point, but slavery was indeed about eradicating African culture. That's why the slaves were forbidden to speak their native language, having to learn English in the process. They were also stripped of their religions, and were forbidden from indulging in other parts of their culture such as playing the drums.
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The whole world should sue each other, to be honest 
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Originally posted by GreasyBruce
Don't compare the two, slavery was not about eradicating African people, their culture and history from the world (and remember the African countries were involved in the slave trade and sold their own people). Both horrific and inexcusable but very different.
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Africans sold their people because they were slaves.
They weren't necessarily their people they were slaves.
Before then everyone had slaves no race was exempt from having them and not all were sold a great number were stolen and captured.
What made this slavery different is that every African no matter what their ethnicity or social status were treated as inferior, but yes oppression Olympics are pointless.
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Originally posted by JonnyϟLightning
I'm so DAMN TIRED of comments like this. Yes its in the past, but why should the descendants of blacks STOLEN from their native land continue to PAY/SUFFER for that? Slavery was abolished and white people left, but they left blacks in the GROUND. they never offered a sincere helping hand that truly brought people of color up from the ground. Im from the Caribbean and we are still paying for what the europeans did to us, so why shouldnt THEY pay? For what THEY did? This is why racism will never end. Europeans literally ****ED UP people of color, they destroyed our homelands, brought us to a foreign place, forced us into slavery, treated us like ****, liberated us for reasons that had NOTHING to do with morality (they only liberated slaves because it was more expensive to maintain a slave than it was to run a machine), and then CONTINUED to treat us like ****.
NO its not in the past. we are still paying for what was done to our ancestors. So why shouldnt THEY pay us for reparation? Why? they dont pay us reparation because they want to keep us DOWN. They want to act like its all equal and fair until a Person of color comes into power or a person of color gets money. Then they want to scream and say that people of color are practicing "reverse racism."
POINT: They keep us down because theyre scared that well do to them what they did to us.
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If these countries who finally decided to get rid off slavery (yes because a growing number of other Whites were against it) were so bad, then why they did not just send back the slaves back to Africa or exterminate the slaves instead of keep them part of a society as free people to commingle with the whites there?
Of course Africans could have done no wrong because they are Black… they already had the slaves and they just hand it out to the Europeans. They could have put a fight... but no… they gave people away for other goods. How nice of them.
Waiting for more negativity post about white people….
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Originally posted by JonnyϟLightning
I'm so DAMN TIRED of comments like this. Yes its in the past, but why should the descendants of blacks STOLEN from their native land continue to PAY/SUFFER for that? Slavery was abolished and white people left, but they left blacks in the GROUND. they never offered a sincere helping hand that truly brought people of color up from the ground. Im from the Caribbean and we are still paying for what the europeans did to us, so why shouldnt THEY pay? For what THEY did? This is why racism will never end. Europeans literally ****ED UP people of color, they destroyed our homelands, brought us to a foreign place, forced us into slavery, treated us like ****, liberated us for reasons that had NOTHING to do with morality (they only liberated slaves because it was more expensive to maintain a slave than it was to run a machine), and then CONTINUED to treat us like ****.
NO its not in the past. we are still paying for what was done to our ancestors. So why shouldnt THEY pay us for reparation? Why? they dont pay us reparation because they want to keep us DOWN. They want to act like its all equal and fair until a Person of color comes into power or a person of color gets money. Then they want to scream and say that people of color are practicing "reverse racism."
POINT: They keep us down because theyre scared that well do to them what they did to us.
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Originally posted by Mekitor
If these countries who finally decided to get rid off slavery (yes because a growing number of other Whites were against it) were so bad, then why they did not just send back the slaves back to Africa or exterminate the slaves instead of keep them part of a society as free people to commingle with the whites there?
Of course Africans could have done no wrong because they are Black… they already had the slaves and they just hand it out to the Europeans. They could have put a fight... but no… they gave people away for other goods. How nice of them.
Waiting for more negativity post about white people….
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Are you serious?
For starters, you can't send slaves back to their home country because the country they were sent to became their HOME after centuries of slavery. What sense does that make to send a bunch of Africans back to Africa if they've already been living in a country for centuries? A place where they wouldn't know ANYONE, separated from the family that they've made. How is that even practical to send a whole bunch of random black people back to Africa? Where would they go once they've made it there? There are DOZENS of African countries, how would they know which person belonged to which country?
Secondly, they weren't CO-MINGLING with ANY white people? 
Separate, but not equal? Ever heard of that?
Yes, it's true that Africans themselves were trading other African slaves to the Europeans for slavery, but they never SOLD slaves from their own tribes. They sold slaves from enemy tribes and ethnic groups.
Go pick up a book and educate yourself.
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Originally posted by Ressti
Good.
These countries would be nothing without slavery and thievery.
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Forgot Belgium, remember the Congo? And I haven't read the history of the Italian colonies in Africa but I doubt everything was cool there as well.
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Originally posted by Mekitor
If these countries who finally decided to get rid off slavery (yes because a growing number of other Whites were against it) were so bad, then why they did not just send back the slaves back to Africa or exterminate the slaves instead of keep them part of a society as free people to commingle with the whites there?
Of course Africans could have done no wrong because they are Black… they already had the slaves and they just hand it out to the Europeans. They could have put a fight... but no… they gave people away for other goods. How nice of them.
Waiting for more negativity post about white people….
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Vile. Disgusting. Please sign off ATRL and never come back.
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thank God im from Canada lol...we did nothing 
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Originally posted by Altidor
Are you serious?
For starters, you can't send slaves back to their home country because the country they were sent to became their HOME after centuries of slavery. What sense does that make to send a bunch of Africans back to Africa if they've already been living in a country for centuries? A place where they wouldn't know ANYONE, separated from the family that they've made. How is that even practical to send a whole bunch of random black people back to Africa? Where would they go once they've made it there? There are DOZENS of African countries, how would they know which person belonged to which country?
Secondly, they weren't CO-MINGLING with ANY white people?
Separate, but not equal? Ever heard of that?
Yes, it's true that Africans themselves were trading other African slaves to the Europeans for slavery, but they never SOLD slaves from their own tribes. They sold slaves from enemy tribes and ethnic groups.
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I am not saying hold hands with whites…. but they began to be accepted to be part of the common society and part of their new country. Slow process of course…. it took time and a lot of fighting for rights. But today all men and women no matter of race are equal and protected by the law. Doesn't that count for anything? No… lets go back to slavery time and beat those white forever and ever. Whites = Evil. Is it ever going to end? Money really? Is that going to make all Blacks happy and forget about slavery? Sure lets give money to the rich people like Oprah, Will Smith, etc... since they were descendent of slaves too. When will this stop? Should every white be held accountable for what happened back then?
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Originally posted by Beatfreak
Vile. Disgusting. Please sign off ATRL and never come back.
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Is that an insult to me.
Hahahaha… ok.
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Originally posted by Mekitor
If these countries who finally decided to get rid off slavery (yes because a growing number of other Whites were against it) were so bad, then why they did not just send back the slaves back to Africa or exterminate the slaves instead of keep them part of a society as free people to commingle with the whites there?
Of course Africans could have done no wrong because they are Black… they already had the slaves and they just hand it out to the Europeans. They could have put a fight... but no… they gave people away for other goods. How nice of them.
Waiting for more negativity post about white people….
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Really?!...
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Originally posted by Altidor
Are you serious?
For starters, you can't send slaves back to their home country because the country they were sent to became their HOME after centuries of slavery. What sense does that make to send a bunch of Africans back to Africa if they've already been living in a country for centuries? A place where they wouldn't know ANYONE, separated from the family that they've made. How is that even practical to send a whole bunch of random black people back to Africa? Where would they go once they've made it there? There are DOZENS of African countries, how would they know which person belonged to which country?
Secondly, they weren't CO-MINGLING with ANY white people?
Separate, but not equal? Ever heard of that?
Yes, it's true that Africans themselves were trading other African slaves to the Europeans for slavery, but they never SOLD slaves from their own tribes. They sold slaves from enemy tribes and ethnic groups.
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Originally posted by Mekitor
I am not saying hold hands with whites…. but they began to be accepted to be part of the common society and part of their new country. Slow process of course…. it took time and a lot of fighting for rights. But today all men and women no matter of race are equal and protected by the law. Doesn't that count for anything? No… lets go back to slavery time and beat those white forever and ever. Whites = Evil. Is it ever going to end? Money really? Is that going to make all Blacks happy and forget about slavery? Sure lets give money to the rich people like Oprah, Will Smith, etc... since they were descendent of slaves too. When will this stop? Should every white be held accountable for what happened back then?
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No, money isn't going to repair the damage done by European Imperialism, but it is a START to help rebuild the economies that they DESTROYED.
The fact that you're trying to downplay the racism and discrimination that still occurs today by saying:
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But today all men and women no matter of race are equal and protected by the law. Doesn't that count for anything?
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Is quite disturbing. Just because we MIGHT be equal under the law, still doesn't make us EQUAL.
And yes, White people SHOULD be held accountable for what happened to the slaves back then.
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 I didn't think countries could still be held accountable for this
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Originally posted by Mekitor
Is that an insult to me.
Hahahaha… ok. 
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I mean, what do you expect when you suggest to exterminate a group of people? Nice responses?
You deserve every nasty comment you get.
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Originally posted by Mekitor
I am not saying hold hands with whites…. but they began to be accepted to be part of the common society and part of their new country. Slow process of course…. it took time and a lot of fighting for rights. But today all men and women no matter of race are equal and protected by the law. Doesn't that count for anything? No… lets go back to slavery time and beat those white forever and ever. Whites = Evil. Is it ever going to end? Money really? Is that going to make all Blacks happy and forget about slavery? Sure lets give money to the rich people like Oprah, Will Smith, etc... since they were descendent of slaves too. When will this stop? Should every white be held accountable for what happened back then?
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I know it's not a popular opinion, but I completely understand what you're saying.
But many obviously have a rather serious victim mentality which itself bears a sense of entitlement, despite how outlandish and illogical the supposed "entitlement" would be.
EDIT: You've worded some of your other posts so poorly, along with making some rather distasteful comments ,so it's hard to agree with you in any capacity... but I do lol... on this only.
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Originally posted by Mekitor
If these countries who finally decided to get rid off slavery (yes because a growing number of other Whites were against it) were so bad, then why they did not just send back the slaves back to Africa or exterminate the slaves instead of keep them part of a society as free people to commingle with the whites there?
Of course Africans could have done no wrong because they are Black… they already had the slaves and they just hand it out to the Europeans. They could have put a fight... but no… they gave people away for other goods. How nice of them.
Waiting for more negativity post about white people….
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This is why we need Black history month.
Ever heard of the Back to Africa movement? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back-to-Africa_movement
The reason why it failed: too expensive.
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instead of keep them part of a society as free people to commingle with the whites
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As you see in the images above, they were always reminded that they were INFERIOR. That they werent worthy to even drink from the same moldy ass fountain as a white. How is that a positive environment?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Crow_laws
What the **** is freedom worth if youre treated as INFERIOR? What is freedom worth if you cant get a job? **** outta here if youre trying to paint this as equality and fairness. I literally cannot at anyone who would justify this. "Keep them," "send them back?" Are you talking about a UPS package or PEOPLE? Your language just SCREAMS racism. People of color are not a product/commodity that you throw away or decide to keep.
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My opinion, anyway. Aside from the money perspective, I don't see the point in this since it won't change anything honestly. The current generation isn't responsible for the past, but leaders should know that their predecessors actions' are weighed upon their shoulder.
If this goes through then every country should be up to be sued though.
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Originally posted by Altidor
No, money isn't going to repair the damage done by European Imperialism, but it is a START to help rebuild the economies that they DESTROYED.
The fact that you're trying to downplay the racism and discrimination that still occurs today by saying:
Is quite disturbing. Just because we MIGHT be equal under the law, still doesn't make us EQUAL.
And yes, White people SHOULD be held accountable for what happened to the slaves back then.
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Problem is they're dead. 
...Unless you're willing to make the grand statement that the white people of centuries ago are the same as white people today... Or maybe that the white people of today are literally (legally) born with the debts of their great grandfathers.
And if you are willing to make a statement as such as these..... let's just say good luck in life.
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