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Originally posted by Gagamon
For me personally...I honestly don't care if she fades into oblivion....I mean I would rather her be successful but if she did happen to flop relentlessly it wouldn't make a difference to me. As a fan I always want her to be successful, but if she's not, it's okay because i love her material...I guess it's just hard for me to understand why her success is a bigger component for most fans nowadays. But to each their own I guess. 
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is it weird that I kind of want her to decline a little more so I have a better chance of meeting her?  lmao
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This was good too. The image itself is thought provoking.
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is it weird that I kind of want her to decline a little more so I have a better chance of meeting her?  lmao
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I was thinking about this the other day too
I wouldn't be so upset if she had to play smaller venues like House of Blues... She would be closer to me lmao.
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Would anyone else be okay with Gaga just giving up on singles? No other single is going to be near as successful as Applause. I'd rather she perform different songs on different promo spots (like she did when she randomly performed ARTPOP on Fallon). A MANiCURE performance on Ellen. Donatella at a fashion show. Aura on Kimmel (if it's crazy enough, it could go even the slightest bit viral). It'd also be good for people to realize how many great songs are on the album. And in turn, it could serve as tour promotion 
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This was really pretty. It even beats out a lot of fame era looks

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This was good too. The image itself is thought provoking.
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But most people will just think she's trying to be weird by dressing up in oversized pajamas. Her art needs to be more obvious so she doesn't bore people when she has to explain it (like Beyonce did). 
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Originally posted by Gagamon
For me personally...I honestly don't care if she fades into oblivion....I mean I would rather her be successful but if she did happen to flop relentlessly it wouldn't make a difference to me. As a fan I always want her to be successful, but if she's not, it's okay because i love her material...I guess it's just hard for me to understand why her success is a bigger component for most fans nowadays. But to each their own I guess. 
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It's because Lady Gaga is supposed to be this larger than life pop icon, that's how she billed herself when she came on the scene, that was what made her unlike any other pop star and why she developed such a huge, rabid fan-base so fast. Sure some of her fans might not care about that stuff but for a lot of us we're invested in the pop culture aspect of it, and we buy into the idea of her as a larger than life, ever-transforming figure, so when she fails to live up to that the appeal is largely shattered
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I honestly think this so-called "Venus" era was just her acting up against her label. There is no way a makeup artist would be satisfied with that and the wig is just so tragic. She had to have done all of those looks mostly by herself.
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Would anyone else be okay with Gaga just giving up on singles? No other single is going to be near as successful as Applause. I'd rather she perform different songs on different promo spots (like she did when she randomly performed ARTPOP on Fallon). A MANiCURE performance on Ellen. Donatella at a fashion show. Aura on Kimmel (if it's crazy enough, it could go even the slightest bit viral). It'd also be good for people to realize how many great songs are on the album. And in turn, it could serve as tour promotion 
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No I'd like her to try with one more single. This woman is Lady Gaga, why the hell she's decided to take this beating lying down is beyond me. She's a superstar, she needs to get out and perform a single, push it to the LIMITS on radio with deals and give a MV that everyone will want to see. She shouldn't care if the reception to ARTPOP is lukewarm at best, she should be promoting a new single for it like it'll sell 2M copies next week.
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Key thing to remember: no one actually believed Artpop was a flop until Gaga started acting like it.
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Found an interesting post on GGD and I wanna post it here. Really an interesting read
The newness of Gaga has cooled down. She is still relevant, but her "weirdness" can no longer support her. She made much deeper music a while back, but now (even though her work is still good) it seems very forced. She is perceived as trying too hard. Once she began adding all of her art interests into the mix, people saw it as a act of desperation to appear more relevant. While it is good that she is more than a singer, that is what people made her famous for. Most of the public could care less about the rest of her interests, they want great music and that is all. As her discography has progressed, her songwriting style has changed. The Fame Monster was about these various "monsters", and Born This Way had deep meaning, and that sparked interest, but now people aren't into the ARTPOP message. Sure, she is trying to bring the two together, and that is great, but it isn't working for her musical career. Honestly, if it were titled something else, it would have likely been more successful. I love the album, but people think it is a forced concept. She can label her style "ARTPOP", but as an album, the public didn't care for it.
The larger group wanted a Gaga album, not a Gaga concept. The music was very commercial and tame for it to follow BTW and her previous works. There was little depth to it. Sure, if you are a die-hard fan you've read interviews where she explains some of it, but as a member of the public, they just hear words on a song. BTW was very experimental, and a great album, but the management of it was poor, as is the case with ARTPOP. This is leading to the cooling opinions of her. She is still incredibly relevant, but if she wants to return to her previous level, she will have to work for it, and drop some of her public interests. Her activism is great, but the art idea is very forced from the public perspective. She is an artist, and I think she truly loves art, but the public likely feels that right now, to buy into Gaga, you have to buy into this art concept.
ARTPOP is a fantastic album, but if it were titled after any of the other songs on the album, it may have been more liked. It sold well, performed well, etc. but the sabotage is coming from people not letting strange outfits win them over. Gaga will have to allow her music be her merit, not art or activism. She will have to return to her roots, pop, to reduce the sabotage. It has happened before, and it may be a "sell out" move, but it will get worse if she doesn't turn her management around, and start being a pop star again. She is doing well right now, but we all know she can be more. I love her to death, and love her music, but she is better than what has been happening. She is human, she is not perfect and things happen, but she is not 100% the victim. The truth is, she could have made a better album, and she could have sold more, but she released what she did. Is it bad? No. Did she fail? No. But in the end, we know it could have been more. It could have been better.
Either way, Gaga is at a point where she will have to choose to digress into a niche pop artist, or return to her pop roots and work to build herself back to incredible heights. She is an insanely popular star, but compared to her past career, she is at a low point. By no means is she "over" but people are definitely less interested. ARTPOP can be her style, but it needs to be all about the music.
Credit to Little7Monster from GGD
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I was thinking about this the other day too
I wouldn't be so upset if she had to play smaller venues like House of Blues... She would be closer to me lmao.
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exactly and it'd be more intimate! I'm gonna try and meet her after her show here in july but idk how successful I'll be since it's an arena and the security guards are assholes
like when she was here to perform at iheartradio me and a group of other fans were waiting at the back entrance to the arena and they were yelling at us and threatening to call the cops and we were all like "do it they can't arrest all of us we will run" lmfao
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giraffe eyebrow safari goddess
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exactly and it'd be more intimate! I'm gonna try and meet her after her show here in july but idk how successful I'll be since it's an arena and the security guards are assholes
like when she was here to perform at iheartradio me and a group of other fans were waiting at the back entrance to the arena and they were yelling at us and threatening to call the cops and we were all like "do it they can't arrest all of us we will run" lmfao
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NY Monsters snatch her almost daily. I want to meet her at least once.

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Originally posted by Meowster
I honestly think this so-called "Venus" era was just her acting up against her label. There is no way a makeup artist would be satisfied with that and the wig is just so tragic. She had to have done all of those looks mostly by herself.
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ugh god this is unforgivable. I don't even know what she was going for
How's the tour doing
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Originally posted by Rusty
No I'd like her to try with one more single. This woman is Lady Gaga, why the hell she's decided to take this beating lying down is beyond me. She's a superstar, she needs to get out and perform a single, push it to the LIMITS on radio with deals and give a MV that everyone will want to see. She shouldn't care if the reception to ARTPOP is lukewarm at best, she should be promoting a new single for it like it'll sell 2M copies next week.
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The only song capable of hit status is Gypsy and that should be released around the end of July. Any other song would be a moderate hit. But I do agree with the need for promo.
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this wig....

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