Discussion: The Voice ratings downfall continues, how should NBC help? - Page 4

MissedTheTrain

She Wolf got to #11 on Top 40, that's not bad at all. Waka Waka became the most watched video on YouTube (currently the 5th most watched). Waka Waka also sold 4 million WW

MissedTheTrain

Regardless, it's beyond ridiculous to be perched for the ratings (which are doing just fine)
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/liv...-monday-683248

The ratings from Monday were up from last March and the fall.

and from last night:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/liv...-misses-683722

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The Voice topped its second night in a row, down a bit from last spring's Tuesday opener on NBC -- thanks to a move to the 8 p.m. hour. With an average 3.7 rating among adults 18-49 and 13 million viewers, the series dropped four-tenths of a point in the key demo but improved by more than half a million viewers.

If the ratings go down, it is not because of her.

vuelve88

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Originally posted by atrlster

Stereotypes? Where?

Count on Shakira fans to play victim as usual

She Wolf didn't do that well on Pop radio. And the song after it did even worse

She Wolf and that second single did do well on Latin radio though especially She Wolf. It went to #1 on Latin Songs right?

You assume that it is the Latin market that is responsible for Shakira's success in the U.S.. That was your response towards Shakira being able to tour in the U.S.

Unless you have statistical proof, that's an assumption, and very likely one based on stereotypes and generalizations. Much the same as saying Latin radio was driving her success (when it's only a small fraction of U.S. airplay).

"She Wolf" did well enough to counter your assumption based statements. You're not going to side with Shakira on anything, so I don't count on you conceding or admitting flaws in your argument. I just lay it out as it is.

atrlster

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Originally posted by vuelve88

You assume that it is the Latin market that is responsible for Shakira's success in the U.S.. That was your response towards Shakira being able to tour in the U.S.

Unless you have statistical proof, that's an assumption, and very likely one based on stereotypes and generalizations. Much the same as saying Latin radio was driving her success (when it's only a small fraction of U.S. airplay).

"She Wolf" did well enough to counter your assumption based statements. You're not going to side with Shakira on anything, so I don't count on you conceding or admitting flaws in your argument. I just lay it out as it is.

#11 on Pop radio is not very good especially if the follow up single does even worse. Not to mention it only stayed in the Top 40 for like 11 weeks then collapsed immediately following its peak. Do you even follow radio? You really sound ignorant here trying to pass She Wolf off as some sort of huge hit.

If there's anyone who is making stereotypes, it's you who is marginalizing the Latin market and trying to make it seem irrelevant or even worse, unable to afford tickets

You think the people who bought her tickets are the ones who heard She Wolf on Pop Radio (where it got bad airplay/so so airplay at best and didn't get played that long) over the ones who heard it on Latin Radio (where it was a huge smash)?

Edge Of Glory

nn; Gaga, ha curse.

Bad Influence

Make it more interesting. I tried watching the Shakira/Usher seasons and I didn't enjoy it.

vuelve88

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Originally posted by atrlster

#11 on Pop radio is not very good especially if the follow up single does even worse. Not to mention it only stayed in the Top 40 for like 11 weeks then collapsed immediately following its peak. Do you even follow radio? You really sound ignorant here trying to pass She Wolf off as some sort of huge hit.

If there's anyone who is making stereotypes, it's you who is marginalizing the Latin market and trying to make it seem irrelevant or even worse, unable to afford tickets

You think the people who bought her tickets are the ones who heard She Wolf on Pop Radio (where it got bad airplay/so so airplay at best and didn't get played that long) over the ones who heard it on Latin Radio (where it was a huge smash)?

#11 on Pop radio and the Billboard Hot 100 is respectable. I never said it was a "huge hit", but I know better than to pretend that Shakira was some huge void among general American audiences when she had a respectable hit right on Top 40 radio.

She also had "Waka Waka", which went Platinum in the U.S. largely due to its viral success on Youtube. Let me guess…. only the Latin market viewed the video, right? Am I doing it right?

There are a myriad of reasons why Shakira was able to tour in the United States. She has a 360 deal with Live Nation because she is viewed as a bankable singer and touring artist. If anything, it was the success of "Waka Waka", that gave her enough support to tour strongly, but if you want to hold to your "latin market" idea, have fun with that. It's like how "Sale El Sol" went Diamond with 500,000 copies in France. Oh, it must have been the Latin market.

If you can't fathom that she has other fans, that's your own issue.