but neither of those singles are up to par with Katy's or Gaga's biggest, in fact they performed about the same as Applause WW and Applause "underperformed". I was shocked when I found that out tbh.
TD was huge, no one's denying that.
i know but there some of her biggest, it helped her, just look at bangerz success compared to cant be tamed.
And they are true too i will admit the only songs i genuinely like and appreciate from katy are Dark Horse, Unconditionally, and Thinking of you But the others and her album tracks are just
no there really not its what pressed people say... same old tired excuses its old now come on
C'mon, girl, even Britney can sing well in acoustic performances. And Katy is a pop singer that most of her songs are not acoustic or slow ballads and she can't perform them well.
she does fine most of the time an yeah she does mess up but the point is we all know how good she can sound the voice dragging doesnt work.
The music was better, more risky and the image was something that never was seen before, she brought something good to the table.
The reason why Katy is bigger these days is because Gaga has made so many mistakes and its gonna keep digging her grave, but she did something huge and left a mark in the industry. Katy will be more successful in years to come, but no impact or will have those monster numbers ever
no there really not its what pressed people say... same old tired excuses its old now come on
So you are really saying that katy's music isn't aimed for teens and children? she chooses to make videos like Roar? for the hell of it ? She choose to give DARK horse a childish music video to me the Dark Horse video would have won me back i loved the unconditionally video and just needed her to make a dark and twisted video for a song called Dark Horse come on her managment isn't stupid she's being marketed to teens and kids it's only a tiered excuse to katy kats that don't want to except it
It's just Katy really needs to work on those vocals. Easy songs that she should be nailing is weak and pitchy. She sounds fine in the studio, but non-acoustic live performances are iffy at best.
the fame + monster are pretty much 2 albums but anyways controversy and the shock value tbh
They were sold as one in many countries so how does billboard count that?, I remember I bought the fame and it was ok, then she released TFM, flawless masterpiece, but I didn't buy it because they were selling the version with the fame and tfm, do they count it as a copy of fame sold, tfm or both?
Actual talent. Take away all her eccentricity and gimmicks, Gaga still can sing.
KP cannot sing even if a gun was held to her head.
Then how come Gaga is having trouble right now even though she still has her talent? And how come Katy is doing better then Gaga right now when according to you she has no talent?
Artistry, vocals, personality, edge, philosophy, fashion, theater, performing abilities including dancing and playing instruments, and trendsetting music.
i will admit the only songs i genuinely like and appreciate from katy are Dark Horse, Unconditionally, and Thinking of you But the others and her album tracks are just 
