Originally posted by wanderlust

she's obvoiusly referring to the homophobic law and the beatings of ***** riot and anyone who stands against putin. i have friends who came to my country because they couldn't stay in russia because all the elections were rigged and they had no voice of their own and couldn't do what they wanted. i heard the stories so i know it's real. i'm sick of these know-alls saying there is way less wrong in russia as the media puts it, just to have another opinion. NO. there ARE problems in that country! especially with freedom of speech and anti gay laws: the exact issues madonna always speaks out about! so she should stay quiet? why?

why do you people have to be so literal all the time? no there is no actual "war" in russia, but it doesn't always have to be war for people to wake up and join the masses and scream "free (this country)" she's been supporting ***** riot for YEARS and the same with being against the anti homo laws. jeez. i bet if she didn't say anything she'd get a ton of **** for it

Originally posted by Bríseis

I didnt expect this from you

I know about the problems in Russia, about corruption, about censorship and journalists like Michail Beketov, Oleg Kašin, Anna Politkovska etc., about the anti-gay politics and I understand what M meant, but I see also the disinformations and negativity aimed at Russia. Russia has some very serious problems, but there is also a propaganda to show the country in a very negative light by western, especially American media and people are easily manipulated by that.

This is comming from someone whose country was occupied by Soviets for decades (Prague Spring, Soviet invasion of Czechslovakia). I was born when my people were fighting for our freedom in streets during Velvet revolution. This is coming from someone living only 1000 km from Kiev, watching with great concern how things are developping there. So give me a break.

Originally posted by tittieslap

So why exactly do you believe that Madonna is being inaccurate? What is it that the Western media has wrong in their story concerning the situations in these countries?

Originally posted by Bríseis

Its so many things and I dont feel like talking about it on net. What about you doing your own research? Things are never one-sided and never black or white, kid.

Originally posted by tittieslap

"Do your own research" to me sounds like you think you know something but you're really not sure.

Originally posted by Bríseis

I didnt expect this from you

I know about the problems in Russia, about corruption, about censorship and journalists like Michail Beketov, Oleg Kašin, Anna Politkovska etc., about the anti-gay politics and I understand what M meant, but I see also the disinformations and negativity aimed at Russia. Russia has some very serious problems, but there is also a propaganda to show the country in a very negative light by western, especially American media and people are easily manipulated by that.

This is comming from someone whose country was occupied by Soviets for decades (Prague Spring, Soviet invasion of Czechslovakia). I was born when my people were fighting for our freedom in streets during Velvet revolution. This is coming from someone living only 1000 km from Kiev, watching with great concern how things are developping there. So give me a break.

Originally posted by tittieslap

So why exactly do you believe that Madonna is being inaccurate? What is it that the Western media has wrong in their story concerning the situations in these countries?