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News: Mom Vs Gay Dads - THE UPDATE.
Member Since: 11/28/2011
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Originally posted by J. YONCÉ
You've never been to America, have you?
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Yes I have. On many occasions. But we use punctuation the same so I don't see how that is relevant. She out it in quotation marks, who is she quoting? Gay people don't see it as a lifestyle. Its people like her who do. So why does she empashis it as if she is trying to draw attention to the legitimacy of the words usage?
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Originally posted by #navytings
Firstly, let me just say that what that woman done was horrible. Not even because she bashed homosexuality, but it was just disrespectful to do that to anyone. Now, let me get onto the conversation. I love having conversations with grown people about subjects, broadens my mind.
You shouldn't have to demean yourself, you're 100% right, my post wasn't a "you should just take the hate" sort of post. I just feel like you have to accept to be accepted. You have to accept the fact that there are going to be people that don't like it, just like the people who're against it need to accept the fact that people ARE gay, and get over it. Not everybody in this world is going to agree on things, and sexuality just so happens to be one of them.
The same goes for the woman in the note, sure, she doesn't like the fact the Dad's are gay, and doesn't want her Child around them. The way she went around it was completely horrible, but it's just the same as when a Mother doesn't want their child hanging around with a certain group of children, because she doesn't like the trouble they get themselves in, and she doesn't want her Child to start adapting to that. I don't think that being gay is wrong, but this woman was brought up in a generation where it was punishable to stand up and be gay. Just like it's close minded that people can't just accept the fact that people are gay, I also think it's close minded of people to except people to change their way of thinking and to accept them when they've been brought up to believe the complete opposite.
I agree with whatever poster in this thread says that this younger generation, when we all get older, and we are running the countries, I feel like the whole thing will die down. We are a lot more exposed to things like homosexuality, transgenders and things like that where to us? It's just normal. I have a friend who is a female, who shaved her hair, dresses like a man and changed her name to a male name, and to me? That's normal, but to someone older, to people who haven't been exposed to this type of thing before, it's out of the norm and they don't like it.
I hate this now cause I've offended people and that was completely not my intentions -__-
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I'm fine accepting the fact that they exist.
I'm also fine calling them out and publicly shaming them every. single. time. they pull **** like this. How else will the future generations learn that this behavior is unacceptable?
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Member Since: 6/25/2011
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Originally posted by Javan
Yes I have. On many occasions. But we use punctuation the same so I don't see how that is relevant. She out it in quotation marks, who is she quoting? Gay people don't see it as a lifestyle. Its people like her who do. So why does she empashis it as if she is trying to draw attention to the legitimacy of the words usage?
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Javan, she's trying to draw attention to the fact that she thinks the gay "lifestyle" is not a legitimate or acceptable lifestyle...
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Member Since: 5/21/2009
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Originally posted by J. YONCÉ
What does letting your 7-year-old kid go to a birthday party have to do with them being or becoming gay?
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According to some theories of growth and development, some people believe that a child's sexuality is a variable that can be influenced by the environment they grow up in.
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Not an @aol.com email the dads need to get out of the past too just like that woman
But in all seriousness, this "lady" (is she even deserving of that title?) could have just kindly said no. But I guess bigotry is powerful.
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Originally posted by NE.
According to some theories of growth and development, some people believe that a child's sexuality is a variable that can be influenced by the environment they grow up in.
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The kid was being invited to the birthday party of a child he already goes to school with. Unless he was being invited to grow up in their home, I still don't see what the rationale here is.
And according to all theories of growth and development, gay parents don't lead to more gay kids. There's been plenty of scientific studies on that. It's not up for debate, it's a fact.
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Member Since: 9/4/2011
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I wouldn't miss her
It's a shame they had to deal with this ignorance.
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Member Since: 11/28/2011
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Originally posted by NE.
It was unnecessary for her to write them that note, but I understand where she's coming from. Even the people who aren't against gay marriage, doesn't always mean they want their own children to be gay.
At 7 years old, a child is highly influenced by what they see in their environment. Truth is, most parents want their children to be straight, get married, have kids of their own and not be subject to the stigmas that come with being gay.
I'm not saying I agree with her, but I understand her rationale.
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This. But she didn't have to send a letter. Very unnecessary. And she is just swimming against the tide anyway. With gays on Disney this year, who knows what our children will be witnessing in 10 years . I sound like a bigot but 4 real, I think seeing these things can affect kids.
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I think it's a good thing that she responded the way she did. Now they know what kind of belief system she has. The sad part of it is that the two kids could have been great friends, but sadly if the child does want to be friends with him it will probably turn into something secretive that the one child will have to keep hidden due to his family's beliefs. It ends up being another situation of having to hide who you are or who you ant to associate with that shouldn't even be an issue, especially at that age.
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Originally posted by Damien M
race =/= sexuality
the first is unconditional
the second is subjective
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So because you think sexuality is a choice it justifies discrimination?
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Originally posted by Javan
This. But she didn't have to send a letter. Very unnecessary. And she is just swimming against the tide anyway. With gays on Disney this year, who knows what our children will be witnessing in 10 years . I sound like a bigot but 4 real, I think seeing these things can affect kids.
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Yes, and thank God it affects them. The effect will be that our kids to be less discriminatory and prejudiced.
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Member Since: 11/28/2011
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Originally posted by J. YONCÉ
Javan, she's trying to draw attention to the fact that she thinks the gay "lifestyle" is not a legitimate or acceptable lifestyle...
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If she doesn't think its a "lifestyle' surely that means she thinks its not a choice? Then wh is she being difficult with gays
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Originally posted by Javan
This. But she didn't have to send a letter. Very unnecessary. And she is just swimming against the tide anyway. With gays on Disney this year, who knows what our children will be witnessing in 10 years . I sound like a bigot but 4 real, I think seeing these things can affect kids.
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What?! I grew up in a Muslim family from Iran. Basically everyone I knew was homophobic, parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, etc. As for TV? 100% straight people. Not a gay or gay couple in sight. How come I didn't turn out straight? Seeing someone on a damn show doesn't influence ****. People are born with a predisposition to whatever sexuality they are. Stop acting like being gay is a bad thing.
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Originally posted by Javan
If she doesn't think its a "lifestyle' surely that means she thinks its not a choice? Then wh is she being difficult with gays
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Javan
She's just saying she thinks it's sinful/an abomination/unacceptable. She's just being bigoted/demeaning. "The gay lifestyle" is one of the biggest homophobic talking points/buzzwords in America. You're somehow both missing the point and reading too much into it
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Member Since: 11/28/2011
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Originally posted by J. YONCÉ
Yes, and thank God it affects them. The effect will be that our kids to be less discriminatory and prejudiced.
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Or gay
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Member Since: 2/17/2012
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Originally posted by Javan
This. But she didn't have to send a letter. Very unnecessary. And she is just swimming against the tide anyway. With gays on Disney this year, who knows what our children will be witnessing in 10 years . I sound like a bigot but 4 real, I think seeing these things can affect kids.
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Affect them how?
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You might as well just be saying straight parents only raise straight kids and gay parents only raise gay kids with that "tv influences children's sexualities" statement.
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Member Since: 8/16/2011
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The most shocking thing for me is that a WOMAN wrote that.
Most of the girls in this world accept gay people. The ones who don't are monsters to be honest.
And OT, what a mother****ing *****
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Member Since: 9/13/2012
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Originally posted by Javan
Or gay
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Oh, thank GOD this brave mother didn't let Tommy attend the party. Surely he would've come home with glitter in his hair and a fresh Sean Cody subscription, after being zapped by their gay laser beams. Someone please stop the gay agenda.
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Originally posted by Scandal & Media
You might as well just be saying straight parents only raise straight kids and gay parents only raise gay kids with that "tv influences children's sexualities" statement.
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Right? The lack of logic. Meanwhile the lesbians next door to me have the straightest child you can imagine, while my super straight mother gave birth to a Little Monster.
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Member Since: 2/17/2012
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Originally posted by Javan
Or gay
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Well, as gay people become more accepted there are going to be more (openly) gay people, yes. How is that BAD?
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