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Video Clip: Teen comes out at school ceremony
Member Since: 2/2/2012
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Originally posted by Shapes
Oh my god I'm so getting warned for what I'm gonna say next 
Unfortunately, on the quest for equal rights, people are hurt and sometimes killed. It sucks, but it's unfortunately the way it goes. We should be keeping it minimal, but we're ignorant if we believe we can achieve our goals and reach the promised land without some of our brothers falling around us.
Do you see other invisible minorities "coming out"? Do you see Christians coming out? Muslims? Athiests? Hardly. They've been taught that they don't need to JUSTIFY their lives and the way they lead them.
trans* people have the idea correct, they'll usually just tell a few people who might give a ****, and then they just transition and say **** you to the rest of the world. Imagine if gay men and lesbians did the same thing! |
Gay Jihadist teas.
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I believe that people are taking this out of proportion... Some of us are fine that he did it but I for one think that it wasn't the right moment to do it but just that.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Shapes
Oh my god I'm so getting warned for what I'm gonna say next
Unfortunately, on the quest for equal rights, people are hurt and sometimes killed. It sucks, but it's unfortunately the way it goes. We should be keeping it minimal, but we're ignorant if we believe we can achieve our goals and reach the promised land without some of our brothers falling around us.
Do you see other invisible minorities "coming out"? Do you see Christians coming out? Muslims? Athiests? Hardly. They've been taught that they don't need to JUSTIFY their lives and the way they lead them.
trans* people have the idea correct, they'll usually just tell a few people who might give a ****, and then they just transition and say **** you to the rest of the world. Imagine if gay men and lesbians did the same thing! |
Christians or muslims ain't minorities besides wherever they live, they are very well accepted. They do come out in their own way - wearing traditional clothes, symbols etc and people know what they are.
Atheists don't need to come out, coz it's not really affecting their whole life. And Atheists are not hated and killed everyday.
And coming out to people helps people realise that their friends and families, classmates and their general environment are not immune to being gay. And doing it by being caught ****ing or grabbing ur bfs ass is not the way to go yet unfortunately. But i hope some day we won't need to come out coz it will be just another part of human life.
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Some of you are so extra 
I don't see any misplaced self-hate or internalized homphobia (or any other terms any of you may have picked up from a queerty article) in other gays not feeling the need to announce to the world that they like to take it up the ass every once in a while. "Coming out" is a ridiculous notion that further marginalizes gays and turns homosexuality into more a spectacle than a sexual orientation.
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you're delusional if you think coming out isn't necessary for at least some people
yes in an ideal world one wouldn't need to come out but obviously we don't and will never live in an ideal world
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Shapes sis, you're gonna be banned and this thread may end up closed
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Originally posted by Guernica
@ all the people in here hating on him. I know this forum is filled with a bunch of self hating in the closet teen gays but lord that doesn't mean that you have to hate on people that are out and happy. I hate it when people try to put other people down for coming out and say it's not a big deal or nobody cares. Being gay still is a big deal in 2014 and we need to just accept that. If a person feels more comfortable letting everyone know that they are gay because they feel they were hiding or lying to people that they care about, and this makes them feel free, then so be it. Go take your negativity elsewhere. There's nothing wrong or attention seeking about wanting to live your life openly as who you really are. I also can't help but think that a lot of gays that put down other gays that are very open and proud only do so because they want acceptance from the straight community which for some unknown reason is thought of as the holy grail and the better community. Here's some advice: when you let go of all your negativity and start living your life with a positive outlook, you may find that you are much happier then you were before.
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Lol, stop.
I'm neither self-hating, nor seeking "straight-acceptance". You don't know the half of my life.
I was open & honest about who I was all throughout high-school & was one of the voices of our anti-bullying groups, my parents forced me out of home upon finding out, & I now live openly & happily with my boyfriend of 2 years. Not once did I feel the need to validate or announce my sexuality to anybody. I don't need an assembly to announce I take it up the butt. 
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Yay for the handsome white teen, the world is clearly moving forward.
Anywho, kudos to him but it did look like he was doing more for attention, if people were cheering and everything before his announcement, it seems like he didn't have a ****** high school life like other closeted gays.
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Y'all are too damn extra and messy for no reason. Just leave it alone. This thread gon get closed
Anyway I think I remember seeing this video awhile ago. I applaud him for taking that big step. And it's cool that there wasn't a big reaction. It means his classmates think it's no big deal and normal.
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Originally posted by FOCK
Lol, stop.
I'm neither self-hating, nor seeking "straight-acceptance". You don't know the half of my life.
I was open & honest about who I was all throughout high-school & was one of the voices of our anti-bullying groups, my parents forced me out of home upon finding out, & I now live openly & happily with my boyfriend of 2 years. Not once did I feel the need to validate or announce my sexuality to anybody. I don't need an assembly to announce I take it up the butt. |
Everybody is different, and if somebody feels the need to announce that they are gay, then what does that to harm you? Why do you care? Why do you need to insult them and try to make them and everyone else that comes out feel bad? If somebody doesn't come out in a big way, if somebody does, those are all their own lives and decisions and there is absolutely no reason to shame them for it. Unnecessary negativity. Oh and there's more to being gay then "taking it up the butt". That's what most straight people think being gay is, and why there's so much hatred directed towards gays. But alright.
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Originally posted by Su-Barbie-A
Yay for the handsome white teen, the world is clearly moving forward.
Anywho, kudos to him but it did look like he was doing more for attention, if people were cheering and everything before his announcement, it seems like he didn't have a ****** high school life like other closeted gays. |
I think that's the issue here.
So many people are projecting onto this ideal narrative.
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Originally posted by primo.
Some of you are so extra
I don't see any misplaced self-hate or internalized homphobia (or any other terms any of you may have picked up from a queerty article) in other gays not feeling the need to announce to the world that they like to take it up the ass every once in a while. "Coming out" is a ridiculous notion that further marginalizes gays and turns homosexuality into more a spectacle than a sexual orientation. |
THIS.
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It looked attention seeking to me. it's weird that he waited till then to come out. 
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Originally posted by Arris1314
It looked attention seeking to me. it's weird that he waited till then to come out. |
Exactly. It's just as brave to come out to your family and friends as it is to come out to the auditorium during an award ceremony. If you choose the later, you are an attention seeker.
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Wait @ some people saying those who come out are attention seekers 
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Originally posted by J. YONCÉ
Coming out is the MOST important political action any gay man can ever take in their life, so y'all need to stop this "Oh I'm edgy, look at me criticizing this other gay man! See, I'm not like those OTHER attention-seeking gays, validate me!" mess. It makes you look tacky, jealous, and ignorant of what is important in this world and in our movement.
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Why does everyone on this website attribute every ounce of criticism on jealousy?
Nobody here is jealous that this boy is coming out in public. People are just pointing out that yes, while coming is a monumental step in a gay persons life, it doesn't necessarily always need to be a large-scale public declaration, which somewhat further cliche's the unnecessary 'dramatization' of ones sexual orientation.
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Originally posted by Guernica
Everybody is different, and if somebody feels the need to announce that they are gay, then what does that to harm you? Why do you care? Why do you need to insult them and try to make them and everyone else that comes out feel bad? If somebody doesn't come out in a big way, if somebody does, those are all their own lives and decisions and there is absolutely no reason to shame them for it. Unnecessary negativity. Oh and there's more to being gay then "taking it up the butt". That's what most straight people think being gay is, and why there's so much hatred directed towards gays. But alright.
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I haven't insulted him at all.
Read my posts. I said I respect he was preaching acceptance & tolerance in part of his speech. The timing of his "announcement" made it seem disingenuous. That's all.
Relax, not everything is a struggle.
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I can't bring myself to watch it. Filming coming out to someone is just extremely awkward for me.  It's not like a wedding proposal or anything special.
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Originally posted by primo.
Living in NYC doesn't have anything to do with my opinion on the issue.  And I grew up in a west indian family so there was never any "privilege" regarding my sexuality.
I just don't see the point of having to publicly disclose my sexual orientation because I exist in the perceive minority of sexual preferences. |
Every single person who comes out makes stereotyping homosexuals that much harder. It is much easier to stereotype a nameless faceless mob of homosexuals than a friend, classmate, or brother
There is nothing more important than being out. All being out is being honest with the world about your sexuality.
And NYC is relevant because you cab see gay people in your day to dat life. I was the only gay person at my school
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
Exactly. It's just as brave to come out to your family and friends as it is to come out to the auditorium during an award ceremony. If you choose the later, you are an attention seeker.
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He's an ACTOR in HIGH SCHOOL and y'all are surprised he's a bit of an attention-seeker?
Plea
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