yea, compared to irl where she isn't respected at all

I don't get it why keep the hate going? You don't like Madonna that is ok there is no need for a thread.

She definitely deserves more respect than she gets. The old lady jokes are too much sometimes.

yes.but not a lot.same with janet.all the older divas get paid dust

By most, yes. But after the controversy, she's lost respect from many including me.

The ****ing essay

I saw you post this before too and I think I shut it down then, too. Ray of Light samples and takes the lyrics from Sephyryn, but if you listen to the two songs and think Ray of Light is just a cover then lol

And let's just forget her other dozens of hit songs and focus on her one that isn't even one of her signature songs.

OT: idk, not really. Most people who underrate her seem to only know of/talk about Hard Candy and MDNA, while largely ignoring the rest of discography. But I think there is more praise for her than people make it out to be.

So i guess thats a no. You won't have a discussion with me about your knowledge of pop culture..

Anyways, It's interesting to me how when Madonna fans post in this thread with a well thought out reasonable comments and the gaga fans say things like "calm down, it isn't that serious" and post Mariah shades.

Well, that entire circumstance speaks volumes, that's what the respect Madonna deserves is to you gaga fan's isn't it - A joke. Something to take lightly and to be made fun of.

You know, there would be no gaga without Madonna.

Madonna openly embraced the gay culture in her work 30 years ago. She is partly responsible for the transition of aspects of the gay community from subculture into mainstream culture. 30 years ago, Madonna was already sending a message of equality for all in her work, including gays, lesbians, bi; she addressed feminism, humanism, Latino immigrants - everything that's important to you now and she did it when the American media turned its back on those issues.

Madonna was the face and name of several gay-related causes, while people like Elton John was in the closet, avoiding any association with the gay community because of the career damage it would do.

Madonna does not get the respect she deserves on ATRL

"deservedly so"

It depends on the ATRLer
For example, I will forever respect her, because she is one of my faves and she helped another one of my faves, Britney, and she made my main fave, Gaga possible
Gaga stans honestly don't give Madonna and Britney enough credit while they should

Most of the time, no.
But I don't really blame them since most of people around her has missed her peaks. People around here grew with Rih, Katy and Gaga so it's not really surprising they ignore what she has done.
The ageist comments need to stop, though.

Her impact is undeniable so she deserves all the respect

Do you really call a post with 3 lines an essay ??????

This.

She deserves more recognition, but she is not really badly disrespected.

yes for the most part.

only her stans think she ain't respected enough what they want is blind praise and adulation for ha. like, no maam.