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Clash Of The Divas: The Final Episode
Member Since: 3/5/2006
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I just happened to come onto this thread and its quite surprising the kind of atmosphere that is evident here..I knew this thread was gonna be cheesy as hell but i wasn't expecting it to be THIS tacky and inappropriate. Its very AMUSING how some of you think you know how the music business works and so on...There's a lot of confirmation from some of you of pieces of music that haven't even been released or even sampled to the public eye. This whole diva showoff some of you are getting off on is just a bit too cartoonish and childish too. Its okay to pit your favorite artists against each other.
But please for the love of God, DO RESPECT THEM AS WELL BECAUSE NO ONE CAN TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY WHEN YOU ACTUALLY ATTEMPT TO DISRESPECT ICONS!!..
Mariah, Janet and Madonna are ALL icons in their own separate league. They have all etched their fingerprints individually in the music industry in ways unique to their achievements and disappointments.
Its very important that when you attempt to give your take on 'a fantasized diva battle' like this, you should REALLY avoid coming off as either A STUPID 13 year old girl or AN EXTREMELY GIRLY and WRONGLY SAUCY 13-20year old guy because coming into these thread and reading these comments is quite hilarious.
NO ONE is gonna take these comments that have flooded this thread seriously because the fact is that 95% of them are so disrespectful that people can not even take the posters seriously or even better RESPECT them at all..Basically what you give is what YOU GET..I could be Janet and coming into this thread, i will be laughing my ass off..A lot of you try to be hurtful but just end up looking really really ridiculous..
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Member Since: 9/15/2007
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Originally posted by Fercho
janet is not a legend anymore, the last two albums sold nothing, and discipline is going to sell 1,000,000 worldwide or less.
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You dont lose being a legend. It's goes on and on as you live. Go up to anybody, and say the name "Janet", they KNOW your talking about Janet Jackson. Play any single by her, they KNOW it's Janet Jackson. Being a legend isnt about sales, it's about fame, it's about name, and it's about image.
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Member Since: 5/11/2007
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You are so irritating you just like to take everything out of context and argue with people or even start arguements so when you say that we're all childish, NO! Someone has just put this up as a thread and whats to know what the ATRLers think of it. Theres no need for what you said. I guess your one of them people who doesn't like seeing people happy and stuff like that  Your a real waste of time  !
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Member Since: 1/27/2006
Posts: 51,546
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Originally posted by Bep Rocks!!
I just happened to come onto this thread and its quite surprising the kind of atmosphere that is evident here..I knew this thread was gonna be cheesy as hell but i wasn't expecting it to be THIS tacky and inappropriate. Its very AMUSING how some of you think you know how the music business works and so on...There's a lot of confirmation from some of you of pieces of music that haven't even been released or even sampled to the public eye. This whole diva showoff some of you are getting off on is just a bit too cartoonish and childish too. Its okay to pit your favorite artists against each other.
But please for the love of God, DO RESPECT THEM AS WELL BECAUSE NO ONE CAN TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY WHEN YOU ACTUALLY ATTEMPT TO DISRESPECT ICONS!!..
Mariah, Janet and Madonna are ALL icons in their own separate league. They have all etched their fingerprints individually in the music industry in ways unique to their achievements and disappointments.
Its very important that when you attempt to give your take on 'a fantasized diva battle' like this, you should REALLY avoid coming off as either A STUPID 13 year old girl or AN EXTREMELY GIRLY and WRONGLY SAUCY 13-20year old guy because coming into these thread and reading these comments is quite hilarious.
NO ONE is gonna take these comments that have flooded this thread seriously because the fact is that 95% of them are so disrespectful that people can not even take the posters seriously or even better RESPECT them at all..Basically what you give is what YOU GET..I could be Janet and coming into this thread, i will be laughing my ass off..A lot of you try to be hurtful but just end up looking really really ridiculous..
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I don't think anyone is disrespecting anyone here. Its clear fact what has been said. I think you're just a little angry over Janet, and need to come down.
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Member Since: 1/27/2006
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Originally posted by terrellezell
You dont lose being a legend. It's goes on and on as you live. Go up to anybody, and say the name "Janet", they KNOW your talking about Janet Jackson. Play any single by her, they KNOW it's Janet Jackson. Being a legend isnt about sales, it's about fame, it's about name, and it's about image.
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This is true, with a few bumps. But what can be lost is your credibility as an artist. People will say the former pop icon Janet or aka has-been. Due to these last 2 albums, and what seems to be coming up to 3, she has lost her status. To me if you say "Janet" people say "Superbowl 2004", a song by her, as of the last 4 years, they would say I've never heard that, or any song before the flops began they'll mention how she's clearly nothing in the industry anymore. Its not true at all that being a legend isn't about sales, cause without all her album sales success pre-2004 she would be nothing. No one would know her. You can't just pop up and become famous out of nowhere, cause otherwise you're only comparing her to Paris Hilton.
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Member Since: 10/15/2001
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I have been reading the posts from this thread and I cannot understand why other posters are getting mad at the negatives toward Janet and the accolades given to Mariah and Madonna. ATRL posters tend to like Mariah/Madonna material and dismiss anything Janet or the Jacksons. Let's be real: Most on this board would like Janet to stop music and continue to bash her on the lackluster sales of her previous albums. It's no surprise. I really don't care what Mariah and Madonna will do...they will get the airplay they need and their fans will say its because of their "top-notch quality of music and direction." This is a fight you cannot win on this board.
Janet Fans: Just enjoy her music and support her. Most of this board never will.
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Member Since: 9/15/2007
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Originally posted by Bep Rocks!!
Its very important that when you attempt to give your take on 'a fantasized diva battle' like this, you should REALLY avoid coming off as either A STUPID 13 year old girl or AN EXTREMELY GIRLY and WRONGLY SAUCY 13-20year old guy because coming into these thread and reading these comments is quite hilarious.
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LMMFAO!!!  Too right on that one. Alot of the guys here are pretty girly anyways. jk jk, I dont know that. But most of them do argue like girls.
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Member Since: 1/27/2006
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^LOL, ironic. 
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Member Since: 4/12/2007
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nuroad I feel really bad for you because you seem like a very nice person and I hate when arguments here get turned into personal attacks. I know how it is when somebody starts bashing an artist that I like, it's almost like somebody is attacking a friend or family member. I'm sorry though I can't really agree with your statement that most of us here at ATRL hate the Jacksons...I think almost nobody here hates Michael and the rest of the Jacksons are, to be honest, irrelevant.
Janet frustrates me and many others because her music is sounding fatigued and forced. I'll be the first to admit that I think half of the stuff Mariah and Madonna do is overrated but at least those two ladies are WORKING for their accolades. Janet is only getting back as much as she puts in, which isn't much. I can't even detect a hint of urgency in her voice. It doesn't matter whether she's a legend or not, she needs to work to get people interested. She can't just count on us to buy her albums every time they come out because that's a really lazy approach. Discipline has a few decent tracks, but Janet doesn't really do any justice to them.
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Member Since: 2/9/2008
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Originally posted by Liyoh
With music.
Janet > Mariah > Madonna
With talent
Mariah > Janet > Madonna
With sales predictions
Mariah > Madonna > Janet
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Member Since: 12/20/2006
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Mariah>>Madonna>>...>>Janet
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Member Since: 2/9/2008
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Originally posted by bobbymfw
Madonna has a more devoted fanabase than Janet so she won't flop, she'll definitely do better than American Life and outsell Discipline too.
Liyoh, which one of the three women you like the most is all a matter of personal preference, but to state that Janet is better than the other two is a false statement. You're comparing two women who actually contribute to their music in some way to a woman who keeps offering up the same bland, run-of-the mill material album after album. Janet let's other people take over the reigns and do it for her but the sad thing is even the professionals can't make her a success.
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I disagree.
While her albums certainly do need to be changed, it's not that the professionals "can't make her a success." It's just that she needs to start writing her own music again. And it needs to be really personal. She says every album she makes is personal, but that just doesn't translate to anything after 2004, unless her life is a series of club-hopping, love-making, never-ending blissful fantasies. Which it very well could be.
Anyway, I changed my mind. I don't want another Rhythm Nation from her. I want another Velvet Rope. She needs to reach down, deep inside, and find that anger--that drive--that lead her to the album. She doesn't need to go through depression, but she just needs to think about the problems with people in the world and blast all of them, piece by piece, in the next album.
Sadly, we all know that isn't going to happen. I really wish I wasn't living in a time when I don't expect any innovation from her. Her music is catchy, and I still really like Discipline, but she never would've made it as an artist if she was putting music like this out all along.
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Member Since: 2/9/2008
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You know what would be awesome?
MJM tour. The three divas, together.
Mariah and Janet have already said they want to do something together--now it's just up to Madge.
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Member Since: 1/27/2006
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Madonna wouldnt dare split her tour money, when she knows she can sell a tour.
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Member Since: 8/14/2007
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LMFAO!!! Madonna would never ever tour with Mariah NOR Janet, she can't low herself to their levels. Madonna is the most successful touring female, she can't carry flops [Janet] in her back.
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Member Since: 3/5/2006
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Originally posted by Hit The Lights
I don't think anyone is disrespecting anyone here. Its clear fact what has been said. I think you're just a little angry over Janet, and need to come down.
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Rico make no mistake..I know you think you have a clear perspective on most things that go on with a situation like this..this whole TRIO diva battle that has reared its ugly head in this thread!...But the problem is that thinking you have perspective ISN'T the same as actually having THAT perspective that is supposedly acquired..My previous post which YOU obviously didn't understand as evidenced by your reaction has nothing to do with being a FAN of either Janet, Mariah or Madonna. I am just a fan of good music..If a track that is done by either artists appears to be of a high caliber, i acknowledge it and if it falls into the other case, i rightly and respectfully critique it too in the same vein. There's no way anyone can in their right mind get angry over anything that is going on in this forum..its just too girly and quite weird to say the least..Some of you are just seeming like a bunch of bored housewives gossiping over people who have actually achieved more than you will ever know..and that includes JANET, MARIAH AND MADONNA..
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Member Since: 2/9/2008
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Member Since: 8/6/2003
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I think this thread should be locked.

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Member Since: 3/5/2006
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Originally posted by eli's_rhythm
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Are you talking to me? I don't do that 'hater' ********..
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Member Since: 4/12/2007
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Originally posted by eli's_rhythm
You know what would be awesome?
MJM tour. The three divas, together.
Mariah and Janet have already said they want to do something together--now it's just up to Madge.
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I think it's a nice idea but never going to happen.
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