Originally posted by Mikeymoonshine

Very true.

Madonna still got crap for that sex book though, it's considered iconic now so she gets the last laugh but at the time she got allot of hate for it but I guess she truly doesn't care so good for her.

I just think some people are better at taking criticism than others. It's like online hate. Some say "grow a thicker skin" but the thing is not everyone is capable of that.

Gaga should stand up for herself more which she seems to be slowly doing but she could also word things better and own up to her part in mistakes I agree.
Although she did ask for forgiveness so I truly believe she was trying to apologize and just explaining why these things happened. It came off as "it's everyone else's fault".

Plus the media hates her atm. I think publicizing a message to her fans as a statement to the GP is wrong. People are picking out stuff like her goddess comments as though that is her saying "I am a god" and not just referencing her own work to her own fans who would understand this.

I guess this is just what the tabloids do though.

Originally posted by Chemist

This is nice and all but she was the one who created ARTPOP. I don't think she was forced to recording these songs nor dress up like a bad art student painting. There might be a management problem but the less than average music and the awful dresses/performances she has given are ALL HER so why complain now?

Originally posted by Riverwide

Wrong.

The music is fantastic. It's everything else that's gone to hell.

Originally posted by Michete

ATRL stays taking every little thing this woman does or says way too seriously.

For real, get off ATRL for a day or two. This **** does not matter nearly as much as y'all pretend it does.

I for one have been completely satisfied by the Artpop era. I hated Applause at first but it really grew on me and I loved the video. I love every song on the album, I've really enjoyed a lot of the performances so far. The DWUW video will come when it comes and I'm sure it'll be great. The tour will be great.

Like literally everyone please settle the **** down.

Originally posted by Chemist

This is nice and all but she was the one who created ARTPOP. I don't think she was forced to recording these songs nor dress up like a bad art student painting. There might be a management problem but the less than average music and the awful dresses/performances she has given are ALL HER so why complain now?

Originally posted by Ethereaaal

Ikr. There are people who say that Lady Gaga should never be taken seriously, yet they over scrutinize things about Gaga. They even have time to make 'stories' out of what's happening behind. The dedication, The irony.

Originally posted by Queen_Madonna

The tabloads and the media are the WORST. They are 90 percent responsible for the gaga/Madonna fan wars.

The interview where Madonna called lady gaga reductive was edited so badly. Madonna called ONE SONG reductive and then went on to say that when gaga refrences her she thinks it's well done, that she doesn't think gaga copies her and that they're two completely different artists but all of that was left out and all the headlines read was "Madonna calls lady gaga reductive"

The media struck again when Madonna sang BTW on stage. The media reported it was a dig at lady gaga so every Madonna fan and every gaga fan believed it. Did anyone stop to think that Maybe she performed the two songs side by side and then sung "she's not me" as a dig at all those critics that attacked gaga for "copying" her.

The media are idiots and have created this fan war and have put tensions between two stars that probably could have been friends.

Originally posted by Mikeymoonshine

I disagree so lets look to critics.

Artpop is generally considered Gaga's worst album but it still received about the same scores as Prism, Bangerz and many other pop albums.

Plus many of the complaints were about the concept not the music. At worst you could call this a badly executed concept album but an average to good pop album. (i would disagree but hey)

Originally posted by Mikeymoonshine

I disagree so lets look to critics.

Artpop is generally considered Gaga's worst album but it still received about the same scores as Prism, Bangerz and many other pop albums.

Plus many of the complaints were about the concept not the music. At worst you could call this a badly executed concept album but an average to good pop album. (i would disagree but hey)

Originally posted by Queen_Madonna

I agree with this. Most of the critics say that it's a solid pop album but then they say it falls down on the art aspect.

That's where the concept comes in - It should have been about dance music (in my opinion) rather than brining art into pop culture. OR if she wanted to do the whole art thing she shouldn't have explained it. Let the fans figure it out, it's half the fun. After all, ARTPOP can mean anything :P

Originally posted by Chemist

lol what kind of excuse is that?. They all 3 had abad scores and GaGa has always been known to be a critics darling.

She included trash like Jewels n Drugs, Donatella and Swine which are all 100000X times worse than anything she has done in the past. Besides I don't see any of the song being a big hit so no the music is not there. If she wants to show the world that she is actually the victim then she has to start from scratch and make quality music withgood lyrics again.

Originally posted by Queen_Madonna

You're ridiclious. Google gaga's name right now and that little monsters.com post comes up on every major media outlet in the world.........................

Stop being so Naieve.

Originally posted by Mikeymoonshine

That's even more than most Gaga stans thought.

I like the Christina edit but it's obviously a bit rushed and it comes a bit late.

I think unless the video goes viral this song will be pretty small, tbh it's been a hit already in many places and is a perfectly acceptable single but too much of how it's been handled was a mess.

Originally posted by feuxtography

She is high on radio. If she releases the video it'll boost it to top 10 easily (or at least outpeak #13.)

Originally posted by Mikeymoonshine

Hopefully, i think there is still a chance for this song but I dunno I am happy with what it got anyway.

Plus Applause did very well

Originally posted by feuxtography

And hopefully, if Gaga follows through with what she's saying, we should have a less messy third single (but the fear is REAL if it ends up being Venus. )