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I feel this topic should be in The Lounge...
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Originally posted by Tibbits
Just to prove how ridiculous this is getting, let's take a look at who has OFFICIAL threads on JUST THE FIRST F.UCKING PAGE of the Main Music Forum.
Hilary Duff
Flo Rida (not to mention I saw a thread talking about a new song of his RIGHT ABOVE THIS ONE)
Nicole Scherzinger ( - this album isn't even coming out anymore)
Paula Abdul
Jesse McCartney (this thread has one poster!)
Janet Jackson (Going for flop #3)
Colbie Caillat
Asia Cruise ( )
Taylor Swift
Rihanna
Raven Symone ( )
Jordin Sparks
Alicia Keys
Ashlee Simpson
Danity Kane
Day 26
Ashley Tisdale ( )
Brandy
Leona Lewis
That is 19 - count 'em 19 - official threads on the first page; and that doesn't even count the Britney, Mariah, Avril (MOST USELESS THREAD EVER), and Chris Brown ones I've seen. Also, there's some like that Alicia one where the only updates are when "Like You'll Never See Me Again" moves up one spot on the BB Hot 100 to #12. Please -- we can see that in the Hot 100 thread. Honestly, the only artist who I actually agree with having an official thread is Britney because there is news about her almost everyday. Things like album art and such can be posted in the Photos section.
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FYI, Ashley was one of the first Official Artist threads so that should definitely stay. The only ones I say we keep are Ashley and Ashlee, Avril, Miss Flopzinger so people can mock her , Rihanna, Hilary, Sara, Christina and I guess Britney
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EDIT - that was just a test. Tibbits you don't have to put a dot in the middle. It doesn't get censored.
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Originally posted by DanieleDonato#1
FYI, Ashley was one of the first Official Artist threads so that should definitely stay. The only ones I say we keep are Ashley and Ashlee, Avril, Miss Flopzinger so people can mock her , Rihanna, Hilary, Sara and Christina.
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to everything here.
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If you think it is pointless to post official threads for artists like Jesse McCartney, it is just as pointless to use an official thread just to talk about someone buying soda or some new pictures being posted. I mean how are you to judge which artist deserves a thread when the "news" that is posted in most official threads is gossip. Otherwise, if an artist is getting any publicity, why should it matter if they are huge or just coming out into the business? There are people who like all kinds of music and limiting official threads to only certain mainstream artists does not make sense.
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Originally posted by Tibbits
Honestly, the only artist who I actually agree with having an official thread is Britney because there is news about her almost everyday. Things like album art and such can be posted in the Photos section.
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What news? That she was sent to the hospital or lost custody? I am not dissing her, just wondering what that has to do with her music and why that seems more worthy to you than someone touring. However, I do agree about posting pictures in the Photos section. Then again, one could debate that video news could go in the Videos form and then what else is left for news on an artist?
Personally, I think half the threads in the Music forum are quite pointless, regardless of who they are about.
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Originally posted by Nick
Basically, for an official thread to be here, I believe that it should cater to a lot of people with its news. If it's going to be updated frequently with minor news like the Britney and Mariah threads, there should be a lot of people who care. If you're making a Jesse McCartney official thread and updating 10-15 times a week (Kevin's words not mine) then something is wrong. There are not 10-15 newsworthy things that happen to Jesse McCartney or Sara Bareilles in one week. We've discussed these official threads before and said that they're not to be made unless the moderators approve it. The official threads are there because artists like Britney Spears were taking up too many individual posts in the forum and we wanted to have them all in one place. The case is not the same for Sara Bareilles. And if someone was to post some idiotic piece of news as its own thread I would just delete it anyway. As of right now I'm not in the mood to go weed out the necessary official threads from the unnecessary. I don't really see it causing an actual problem YET. But I might have to soon, so don't be surprised.
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... so what threads are actually "Official" ... :-/ ...
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Originally posted by orange
There are people who like all kinds of music and limiting official threads to only certain mainstream artists does not make sense.
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The thing is, it DOES make sense. If there was NOT an official thread for Britney Spears, there would be 19 threads for Britney in the main music forum. You've seen it before I'm sure.
If there was NOT an official thread for say...Asia Cruise...we wouldn't have that problem.
The official threads existed in the first place solely to prevent the overcrowding of the music forum with threads about ONE artist. If that's NEVER, EVER going to be an issue, like with Day 26 and Jesse McCartney, I don't think there is any need for an official thread.
Not to mention, having an official thread for these artists that don't even make news just ENCOURAGES the posting of stupid **** that nobody cares about.
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... they can also talk about their favorite artists in their blog... ... aka...Jesse McCartney
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Originally posted by ♥ Shakidrian ♥
... so what threads are actually "Official" ... :-/ ...
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Pretty much only Britney Spears but I think we have to really assess how many FANS are actually paying attention to the "news" in each of these "official" threads to decide which ones need to actually stay around, as well as how much of the "news" would survive without the official thread actually being there.
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Originally posted by Nick
The thing is, it DOES make sense. If there was NOT an official thread for Britney Spears, there would be 19 threads for Britney in the main music forum. You've seen it before I'm sure.
If there was NOT an official thread for say...Asia Cruise...we wouldn't have that problem.
The official threads existed in the first place solely to prevent the overcrowding of the music forum with threads about ONE artist. If that's NEVER, EVER going to be an issue, like with Day 26 and Jesse McCartney, I don't think there is any need for an official thread.
Not to mention, having an official thread for these artists that don't even make news just ENCOURAGES the posting of stupid **** that nobody cares about.
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True but then there are people like Kevin (no offense, you are just first to come to mind at the moment) who would still make a lot of threads for a certain artist and an official thread keeps it all in place. I mean Asia Cruise was just a thread that turned into an official thread in case that poster wanted to post more things about her, which would probably be from the poster who created that thread. Official threads are just another way of saying "everything ________" so the poster does not go crazy and clutter the forum even more.
I just wish more people posted valid music-related posts/threads, rather than randomness concerning an artist.
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Originally posted by orange
I just wish more people posted valid music-related posts/threads, rather than randomness concerning an artist.
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I absolutely agree. It's just that Kevin won't admit that people just don't really care about Jesse here (which I know he'll argue with, but there's not much more anybody can say about it. Sorry Kevin, but you're being stubborn, and it's definitely not likeable.)
My philosophy on the matter: If the "news" (and I use that term lightly) in an Official Thread were posted as a separate thread, and people would reply "USELESS," "Who Cares?" or " ," that's a sign that an official thread is not necessary.
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IMG... artists who have not sold over 10,000,000 should not have an official thread ... and artist who have not even sold 1,000,000 should most certantly not have one... kthanksbye
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I'll post my unbiased opinion as I don't post in any of these "official artist threads" anyway. In my opinion, the big artist threads should be stickied and always be at the top of the main music forum. All other official artist threads should be disallowed. Anyone who wants to post info about lesser artists can do so in their blog. Nothing against lesser artists as lesser artists are most of what I listen to. It is just for cleanup purposes.
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Originally posted by Tibbits
Just to prove how ridiculous this is getting, let's take a look at who has OFFICIAL threads on JUST THE FIRST F.UCKING PAGE of the Main Music Forum.
Hilary Duff
Flo Rida (not to mention I saw a thread talking about a new song of his RIGHT ABOVE THIS ONE)
Nicole Scherzinger ( - this album isn't even coming out anymore)
Paula Abdul
Jesse McCartney (this thread has one poster!)
Janet Jackson (Going for flop #3)
Colbie Caillat
Asia Cruise ( )
Taylor Swift
Rihanna
Raven Symone ( )
Jordin Sparks
Alicia Keys
Ashlee Simpson
Danity Kane
Day 26
Ashley Tisdale ( )
Brandy
Leona Lewis
That is 19 - count 'em 19 - official threads on the first page; and that doesn't even count the Britney, Mariah, Avril (MOST USELESS THREAD EVER), and Chris Brown ones I've seen. Also, there's some like that Alicia one where the only updates are when "Like You'll Never See Me Again" moves up one spot on the BB Hot 100 to #12. Please -- we can see that in the Hot 100 thread. Honestly, the only artist who I actually agree with having an official thread is Britney because there is news about her almost everyday. Things like album art and such can be posted in the Photos section.
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I am SO on Team Tibbits. I'm gonna repeat what I said on the Colbie Caillat ( ) official thread: this is getting RIDICULOUS. Well, let's say I'm thinking about releasing an album in the next 10 years, so I should probably open my official thread right way, my fans are dying for it, I bet, right?
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ok, so when is this taking place? I say that if you're going to do this, then just do it now and get rid of any you see that are unneccesary
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Originally posted by music135
ok, so when is this taking place? I say that if you're going to do this, then just do it now and get rid of any you see that are unneccesary
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I doubt anything will be done until the vBulletin upgrade, which is supposed to happen by the end of next month(?) I personally won't be doing ****; I have some "useless" threads for the artists in my signature, and they're going to stay where they are for the time being.
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^haha, me too, i'll do the same
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Don't we just love when a official thread is on the 2nd page and then suddenly someone bumps it with a random "I love Xtina"?
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Originally posted by Manu! ●
Don't we just love when a official thread is on the 2nd page and then suddenly someone bumps it with a random "I love Xtina"?
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It's quite entertaining, isn't it?
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Originally posted by Tibbits
Also, there's some like that Alicia one where the only updates are when "Like You'll Never See Me Again" moves up one spot on the BB Hot 100 to #12.
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That's so not true. The majority of the updates are actual news (touring, performances, awards, and single news). Every thursday I post Alicia's chart positions on radio, billboard, etc. So if anyone wanted to know how she was doing they could just go there and see all in one place. If people make a thread for an artist I don't see any harm. If it's not useful then people won't post....or the creator will bump it for no reason like the jesse one.
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I think an official thread is better than making multiple threads about news on one artist only.
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