Yet Dr. Luke wanted Nate's Die Young chorus (Ke$ha's chorus wasn't Die Young) which was the reason why the song was pulled from radios after the Sandy Hook tragedy. Not Ke$ha's verses. Nate's chorus which Luke wanted to use. C'Mon and Crazy Kids were also Luke's single choices. What do you make of that?

Some of y'all saying "it's not Ke$ha's fault" and "Luke was trying to help her career"
Ke$ha clearly does not care to make songs like Crazy Kids and shouldn't have to at age f**king 26
It's like you forget she is a human being with dignity. And if Luke so desperately wanted to help her he did it WRONG,
called her fat multiple times, forces her to record material he thinks is "cool and hit-worthy" but fails to make it work.

So yes, I like Ke$ha's music with Dr. Luke but would rather they split up if it's abusive like this.

Sorry, but you're just plain wrong.

Die Young's slayage was restricted to it being a catchy pop hit, and it didn't translate into album sales. There's a bad move by Luke. The whole point of a lead single is to gather hype and attention for the album, which Die Young didn't do. Yes it gave Ke$ha another big hit but at the end of the day big hits don't hold much value when you don't have album sales to back them up. Labels want record sales, not just single sales or high chart peaks. And Luke's decision to have Nate's chorus included instead of Ke$ha's did have a negative affect no matter how coincidental. It was still his fault.

C'Mon and Crazy Kids were in NO WAY connected to the Sandy Hook shootings. Radios didn't not play the songs because of Die Young. That's just stupid. They were just poor single choices. Don't get me wrong, I like both songs, but C'Mon sounds so 2011 and Crazy Kids was ruined with will.i.am. Both choices were Luke's. Perhaps if Ke$ha was allowed to release a ballad like Love Into The Light things wouldn't have been any different, but at least it would be her fault and I wouldn't be able to rightfully blame Luke for its lack of success (see Katy Perry and Unconditionally).

She should leave him.

I love Ke$ha's songs with Luke but they're not my favourite and we have enough of them now. I'd much prefer her to work with lots of different producers and still keep her pop sound but perhaps go into a more pop/rock area.

Die Young had the potential to give Warrior a hit album. The single was going strong until the whole incident happen, and then the controversy started flooding in.

After that incident, I feel like they didn't know what they were doing. C'Mon was recieving positive reviews, but she had very little promo. After C'Mon, you can tell there was some downhill stuff happening in the background that they were not telling us.

They released Crazy Kids, but by the time they did it, the fans already knew something was up -- and so did Ke$ha.

Imagine Rihanna in her Loud era - her first three singles were all number one hits. If there was drama in the background, it doesn't matter how good the music is, everything would be slowed down - promo, performance, and the audience will find it sketchy and stop supporting it. Rihanna didn't have all that drama, though.

Despite this, Ke$ha still helped someone else pull a #2 hit with the Dr. Luke-produced single "Timber", because it's not her single, so she can't bring her drama into someone else's song. So obviously, they still have something that can make pop hits, they just need to take a step back on concentrate on music together.

Obviously it's hard to say anything with certainty, but I'm sure that Last Goodbye would have been a better lead single than Die Young. Lets face it, almost anything that Ke$ha released as her lead single was going to be a hit because people were hungry for new Ke$ha. I reckon that even if C'Mon was released as the lead single it'd do about as well as Die Young. Last Goodbye however not only had a folktronica element to it that was fresh and would be great for pop radio, but the song itself is meaningful and relatable and would show a different side to Ke$ha that would definitely translate into album sales more than Die Young did.

I'm not saying that she should release risky alternative singles, but she needs some diversity from the party pop route. Last Goodbye is a prime example of what Ke$ha should be doing. Thinking Of You, Only Wanna Dance With You and Warrior are also other good examples. Die Young and C'Mon were too 2011 (Good Feeling, anyone?)... she needed something fresh.

Die Young was pulled from radios after Warrior was released. C'Mon and Crazy Kids didn't help album sales either. The only thing that seemed to move album sales significantly was My Crazy Beautiful Life which pushed the album back onto the Billboard 200 a couple of times.

And I'm not a major fan of Love Into The Light actually, I only suggested that because Ke$ha made it apparent that she wanted it as a single. But my point wasn't whether it would smash or flop, my point was that if it had flopped it'd be KE$HA's fault, not LUKE's. Whereas C'Mon and Crazy Kids were LUKE's choices, as well as Die Young, and so the blame is on him.

Read above for my full explanation, but as I said, Warrior was released about a week before the school shooting happened and had any effect on Die Young's airplay, so Warrior had at least two weeks of sales before any effect would have occurred. Warrior sold 85k first week sales purely because Die Young was the lead single and people didn't want to buy an album full of Die Youngs. Obviously Warrior wasn't just an album full of Die Youngs, but people didn't know that because of Ke$ha's track record with almost all of her singles all being the same tired party song that was popular back in 2009-2011.

Your reasoning for C'Mon's underperformance almost seems as if you have no clue what to say so you just made up something.

The same thing for C'Mon as for Crazy Kids. Ke$ha and Ke$ha's fans =/= the general population and radio audience and iTunes store customers.

Rihanna's Loud era has no relevance to Ke$ha's Warrior era so I have no idea why you brought it up.

Most of the GP don't know or care about the drama (unless they're Lady Gaga - no shade), and Warrior's underperformance had no effect on Timber, just like C'Mon had no effect on Crazy Kids and Die Young on C'Mon. They underperformed because of the songs themselves, not because of what came before them.

The only thing I agree with is that they need to concentrate on the music now.

You totally disregarded my whole post so I'm not going to bother.

Moving on with the thread, does Ke$ha still have a career with Dr. Luke - yes. They need to sort out their drama together and think about the fans. Timber is a #2 hit with Ke$ha on it, so there is still room for success. Otherwise, Ke$ha can go alternative and say the last goodbye to her career.

i want her to stay with Dr.luke since the bops he releases are sick as **** but i know thats not what she wants so but like you said if its STRICTLY MUSIC then i vote for Ke$ha to stay

I agree, sometimes I feel that artist goes with what's popular (pop) but in reality that's not the genre they want to do. Kind of similar to models that go into modeling - they don't actually want to be models, they want to be actors but they go into the modeling field to get their name out there first.

I totally know that Ke$ha wants to be in that rock/indie/alternative genre but her fans are already use to her being in the pop genre, that's what she's made herself to be, so if she moved musical direction I would be so baffled.

I'm totally against #freeke$ha, she needs to continue her career with Dr. Luke IMMEDIATELY and stop her foolish nonsense. Sometimes when you're with someone that's made you, you feel like you're superior and better off without them.

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There's so many "non-Dr. Luke songs" that are still pop

Just look at the producer credits (and let's remember Dr. Luke stole some credits )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrior_(Kesha_album)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannibal_(EP)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_(Kesha_album)