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Celeb News: Morrissey: "Eating meat is the same as paedophilia"
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Humans are heterotrophs. We are consumers just like every other animal species. We cannot make our own food like plants do so we depend on other organisms (plants and animals) for food and nutrition. Our bodies are biologically designed to eat meat. That is why we have incisor teeth for cutting and tearing flesh. If we are not natural meat-eaters then we will have problems with indigestion from eating meat just like cats have problems digesting plant matter because they are not natural plant-eaters, but we don't. We are omnivores. And killing animals for food is not morally wrong. Morality is a human construct. It is the method of killing that can be morally objectionable not the act itself.
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I'm a vegetarian, but I hate fundamentalists like that. I get when people think it's murder, I get the logic behind that, but what the **** does eating meat have to do with pedophilia? How do you get from one thing to the other? And mess at that biography thing. I hate it when artists are so full of themselves. The Penguin Classic series? I just read Jane Eyre, it was published by them as well. Does he really think of himself as such an important person that he sees his autobiography as a literary work of the same importance as Jane Eyre?
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Originally posted by Darren-5-08
I eat meat and wear fur. Can't wait to meet him 
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Fur is disgusting. Eating meat may be natural, but peeling of the skin of animals to wear coats that, on top of that, look ugly, is unjustifiable. You should watch videos from fur farms. If you still buy fur, you're probably born without a heart.
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Member Since: 10/12/2010
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Yeah ok, if you say so Morrissey.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Reading this thread while enjoying a delicious burger. 
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Member Since: 4/23/2012
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2013: Morrissey refers to David and Victoria Beckham as "The Peckhams," describes them as "insufferable" and says they should be "dragged to the edge of the village and flogged."
2012: Morrissey links the suicide of a London nurse to the Duchess Kate Middleton. "There's no blame placed at Kate Middleton, who was in the hospital for, as far as I can see, absolutely no reason . . . She feels no shame about the death of this woman. The arrogance of the British royals is staggering, absolutely staggering."
2012: Morrissey has his band wear "We Hate William and Kate" shirts onstage.
2012: In an open letter to his fan club, Morrissey rips into the "blustering jingoism" of the London Olympics, comparing the mood in the U.K. to Nazi Germany. "The 'dazzling royals' have, quite naturally, hijacked the Olympics for their own empirical needs, and no oppositional voice is allowed in the free press. . . The spirit of 1939 Germany now pervades throughout media-brand Britain."
2011: In an interview with Billboard, Morrissey calls Lady Gaga "nothing new" and says her style is "fraudulent, and the exact opposite of erotic." He also refers to Madonna as "McDonna" and says Michael Bublé is "famous and meaningless."
2011: Of the Norway massacre in which 77 people died, Morrissey heralds to a Warsaw crowd, "That is nothing compared to what happens in McDonald's and Kentucky Fried **** every day."
2010: Discussing animal cruelty in China, Morrissey tells The Guardian, "You can't help but feel that the Chinese people are a subspecies."
2009: Morrissey leaves the stage at Coachella, explaining "The smell of burning animals is making me sick. I can smell burning flesh . . . and I hope to God it's human."
2002: From documentary The Importance of Being Morrissey: "Bring me the head of Elton John . . . which is one instance in which meat would not be murder, if it were served on a plate."
1997: Morrissey bashes Madonna again. "Madonna reinforces everything absurd and offensive. Desperate womanhood. Madonna is closer to organized prostitution than anything else."
1994: When asked about an incident in which an Australian student shot a starting pistol at the Prince of Wales, Morrissey responds, "I wish that Prince Charles had been shot. I think it would have made the world a more interesting place."
1992: Morrissey knocks dance music. "It's the refuge for the mentally deficient. It's made by dull people for dull people."
1985: Morrissey slams the charity group Band Aid and its co-founder. "Bob Geldof is a nauseating character. Band Aid was the most self-righteous platform ever in the history of popular music."
1984: Morrissey blasts the Cure. "Robert Smith is a whingebag."
1984: Morrissey laments the failed assassination attempt on Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher after the Brighton hotel bombing. "The sorrow of the IRA Brighton bombing is that Thatcher escaped unscathed."
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Sorry, but he seems like a giant asshole 
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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The beyatch better shut up tho. I mean his ancestors were human because they hunted for meat. If he likes them veggies. The great apes in Uganda are waiting for you.
Vok people that believe something and try to force it down people as if it's the way to heaven. Do your thing and I do mine.
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While devout Morrissey fans may regard his every word as divine writ
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by MissBreakaway
Sorry, but he seems like a giant asshole 
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 He is. He's a legend and fantastic lyricist though, so he's allowed to be 
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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i don't eat meat, but that is just ludicrous lol
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Member Since: 4/23/2012
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Originally posted by Samuel
 He is. He's a legend and fantastic lyricist though, so he's allowed to be 
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That shouldn't allow him to make racist remarks and constantly tell people he doesn't like that they deserve to die though.
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Member Since: 5/4/2012
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If eating meat makes me a pedo then I'm Gary Glitter.
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Member Since: 4/23/2012
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Originally posted by Darren-5-08
It's not pointless, though. You kill a rabbit to eat it, then use the fur to make a coat. Surely that is better than casting the fur aside?
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I see that you don't really know where fur comes from. Fur is produced by minks, their meat is not used for eating. They're specifically killed for it and their skin is peeled off while they are still alive. It's torture. And it's unnecessary. Producing fur is even prohibited in some European countries, therefore it is produced in Asia. I suggest you check out some videos, like this
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Member Since: 3/5/2011
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Originally posted by MissBreakaway
I see that you don't really know where fur comes from. Fur is produced by minks, their meat is not used for eating. They're specifically killed for it and their skin is peeled off while they are still alive. It's torture. And it's unnecessary. Producing fur is even prohibited in some European countries, therefore it is produced in Asia. I suggest you check out some videos, like this
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I have already said though, no video will make me object to wearing fur. It is a choice I made a long time ago.
I don't care if people call me disgusting or immoral, because I know I am not. I wear what I want and eat what I want. I am fully in favour of many aspects of animals rights, such as being against cruelty and torture by brutal owners. I love my dog more than anything. But, to be honest, telling me that, regardless of who I am, I am immoral for eating meat and wearing fur has as much weight as a fundamentalist Christian telling me that, regardless of who I am, I am going to hell for being gay.
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Member Since: 6/15/2011
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Originally posted by MissBreakaway
I hate fundamentalists like that.
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If you still buy fur, you're probably born without a heart.
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Morrissey does the most even for an extremist, but attitudes in his vein are why most people are not inclined to give vegetarianism a try or even respect it. Such a judgmental mindset is gonna turn people off and make them run in the opposite direction. Also, going as far as to equate eating meat with pedophilia is an effective way to make people not give a **** about what you have to say regarding animal rights because you sound like an idiot and an asshole.
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Member Since: 12/20/2011
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So we got a man who starved himself because of gay marriage and here we are now saying that eating meat is the same as pedophilia. Interesting 
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Member Since: 4/23/2012
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Originally posted by Darren-5-08
I have already said though, no video will make me object to wearing fur. It is a choice I made a long time ago.
I don't care if people call me disgusting or immoral, because I know I am not. I wear what I want and eat what I want. I am fully in favour of many aspects of animals rights, such as being against cruelty and torture by brutal owners. I love my dog more than anything. But, to be honest, telling me that, regardless of who I am, I am immoral for eating meat and wearing fur has as much weight as a fundamentalist Christian telling me that, regardless of who I am, I am going to hell for being gay.
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But you understand that you DO advocate the torture of animals by buying fur? So saying you are against*animal cruelty, but you buy fur although you know it causes animal cruelty? That doesn't make sense to me. That's equal to advocating slavery, but insisting on not being racist.
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Member Since: 4/13/2012
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Originally posted by Solopop
No it's not. If you have consensual relations with another person or are simply attracted to someone outside of the age of consent does not make it torture. Like seriously, you only perceive it to be because of todays society and the notion of what is right and wrong has been skewed from our natural impulses as humans.
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Did you even read what he said? He said "They are both rape, violence, murder. If I'm introduced to anyone who eats beings, I walk away." THAT IS WHAT HE MEANT BY PEDOPHLIA. Not some kind of "consensual" relationship between a child and an adult (which is sick nonetheless)
Stop playing with words and technicalities and accept the fact that he is comparing the rape and torture of a young child to that same child eating a hamburger! IT IS SICK.
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Member Since: 3/5/2011
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Originally posted by MissBreakaway
But you understand that you DO advocate the torture of animals by buying fur? So saying you are against*animal cruelty, but you buy fur although you know it causes animal cruelty? That doesn't make sense to me. That's equal to advocating slavery, but insisting on not being racist.
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Not all fur involves torture, though, and I am careful in what I buy.
I won't even justify your last sentence with a response; that's exactly the sort of bullsh*t Morrissey comes out with that has everyone here so angry.
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Member Since: 6/15/2011
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Originally posted by MissBreakaway
But you understand that you DO advocate the torture of animals by buying fur? So saying you are against*animal cruelty, but you buy fur although you know it causes animal cruelty? That doesn't make sense to me. That's equal to advocating slavery, but insisting on not being racist.
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Stop right there. You did NOT just equate wearing fur to slavery and racism. 
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Member Since: 4/23/2012
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Originally posted by Darren-5-08
Not all fur involves torture, though, and I am careful in what I buy.
I won't even justify your last sentence with a response; that's exactly the sort of bullsh*t Morrissey comes out with that has everyone here so angry.
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Then it's not minks fur you buy, but just fur by rabbits or something. And I believe that there is a big difference between what Morrissey has said and between what I have said, because there's logic behind mine. Saying one thing and doing another is hypocritical, therefore speaking out against animal cruelty and supporting it by buying materials that result of it is hypocritical. It may not be hypocritical if you buy only fur by animals that are also used for meat and killed without pain, but if you buy the one which involves what has been depicted by the video above, it is hypocritical.
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