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NO. Kradon Baby will be born on MY BIRTHDAY/My December Anniversary that is 22nd June 
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Kelly was the first Reality show contestant voted by America that became successful. Star Search was judge and audience based.
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I agree with Cupid. That's just a controversial claim to make, the other stanbases will tear it to shreds. I wouldn't include it in the thread.
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Originally posted by Cupid
Star Search was a big break for them though, for example that's how Usher got signed to a major label, after appearing on there. It had a huge impact.
Popstars was a UK show in which Hear'Say a hugely successful band was formed, before American Idol. Then Pop Idol (the UK version of American Idol) was created which gave us Will Young and Gareth Gates, two HUGE popstars off the 00's. Then American Idol started and Popstars The Rivals a month or so after with Girls Aloud winning.
Eurovision doesn't always use established acts, it quite often uses unknown acts and propels them to stardom in their respective countries.
Like I mentioned before, Kelly is definitely the biggest and most successful post 2000 talent show winner, I'm not denying her success at all. I'm just simply mentioning she wasn't the first ever winner of a singing show like Kevin said. The singing/talent show format existed long before Idol, it goes back many many decades.
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You are completely correct, but I find it odd that no one ever seems to think of Usher, Beyonce, or Britney as being competition participants. If you were to ask people across the States to name one artist whose claim to fame was being in a talent competition, I imagine Kelly would win in a landslide. It seems as if Star Search participants were pardoned while many people hold being on American Idol, X-Factor, or The Voice against the artists that come from those shows. I've heard Xtina and Beyonce fans criticize Kelly for having "cheated" her way to the top, for not having worked hard to become a pop star.
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The one about different charts is that she is the first artist ever to have topped the Billboard Hot 100, Dance/Club Play Songs, Country Songs, Adult Contemporary and Adult Pop Songs charts.
http://www.billboard.com/articles/ch...history-making
She's also hit #1 on Digital and Pop, but that Billboard article only listed those 5. It sounds better though to say she's the only artist in Billboard History to reach #1 on Hot 100, Dance, Country, AC, HAC, Digital, and Pop.
And yeah I think its fair to say she's the first successful act to come from a singing competition show. Star Search was completely different, and although there were some big people on it back in the day, they didn't get their big break directly from that show. In this generation of shows, Kelly is the first and most successful.
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Originally posted by Chivas
You are completely correct, but I find it odd that no one ever seems to think of Usher, Beyonce, or Britney as being competition participants. If you were to ask people across the States to name one artist whose claim to fame was being in a talent competition, I imagine Kelly would win in a landslide. It seems as if Star Search participants were pardoned while many people hold being on American Idol, X-Factor, or The Voice against the artists that come from those shows. I've heard Xtina and Beyonce fans criticize Kelly for having "cheated" her way to the top, for not having worked hard to become a pop star.
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I hate when they say that. 
Kelly was offered two record deals before even auditioning for American Idol. She could have had that route if she wanted to, but Idol was just the better opportunity. And she struggled, like hell, in LA before she returned to Texas.
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Originally posted by Bloo
I hate when they say that.
Kelly was offered two record deals before even auditioning for American Idol. She could have had that route if she wanted to, but Idol was just the better opportunity. And she struggled, like hell, in LA before she returned to Texas. |
Didn't her apartment burn down or something? 
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Star Search wasn't the reason all those artist got their big break. None of them actually won that show and released a single a month or two after that. All of those artists released a record years after they were on Star Search.
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Originally posted by MissedTheTrain
The one about different charts is that she is the first artist ever to have topped the Billboard Hot 100, Dance/Club Play Songs, Country Songs, Adult Contemporary and Adult Pop Songs charts.
http://www.billboard.com/articles/ch...history-making
She's also hit #1 on Digital and Pop, but that Billboard article only listed those 5. It sounds better though to say she's the only artist in Billboard History to reach #1 on Hot 100, Dance, Country, AC, HAC, Digital, and Pop. |
Yes that's it! Thank you! 
Has she topped any other charts since this article?
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Didn't her apartment burn down or something? |
Yeah, her apartment burnt down and she was completely exhausted of money. She lived in her car for a few days, nothing happened for her and she was forced to go back to Texas. 
But, because of that she was in the right place at the right time to audition for Idol. So, it all worked out! 
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Originally posted by Chivas
You are completely correct, but I find it odd that no one ever seems to think of Usher, Beyonce, or Britney as being competition participants. If you were to ask people across the States to name one artist whose claim to fame was being in a talent competition, I imagine Kelly would win in a landslide. It seems as if Star Search participants were pardoned while many people hold being on American Idol, X-Factor, or The Voice against the artists that come from those shows. I've heard Xtina and Beyonce fans criticize Kelly for having "cheated" her way to the top, for not having worked hard to become a pop star.
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It bugs me when people say that, they're acting like she didn't have to work for her big break and had it handed to her. Kelly did work her ass off for 2 years trying to find her big break, having doors slammed in her face and projects fall through…Idol was just her door into the industry. Her door into the industry is no different than others.....XTina's door was sending her demo to Disney and being discovered through that. Beyonce w/ Destiny's Child auditioned for record labels and got signed by one. The only difference with Kelly was that she had America watching her every week and voting for her.
Also, we've all seen that these shows do not guarantee success by any means. Although it has the pro of building an audience off the bat, it also has its cons….when Kelly first started out, she had to work extra hard to prove that she was more than a talent show winner and that she wasn't just having her 15 minutes of fame, like a lot of people tried to say.
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Originally posted by secondguess
Yes that's it! Thank you!
Has she topped any other charts since this article? |
No problem! I don't think she has….she's topped AC since then but no new charts (other than Holiday Albums, which doesn't count in this case since its about songs).
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The standard fact is that the public today doesn't know what Star Search is. Star Search didn't had much of a impact. American Idol is the first huge singing competition worldwide and will be known for generations, in which Kelly will also be remembered as the first blockbuster act from a singing competition.
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Originally posted by Cupid
That was your original post, you never mentioned winning and releasing a single afterwards. You just said contestant.  |
Well sorry i had to be more specific. I also said relevant, and personally I don't see any of those singing competitions you mentioned relevant in this age, time and future.
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Originally posted by Cupid
Star Search had no impact? Lol ok..
American Idol wasn't the first WW singing competition... It's a copy of a UK format, there were plenty of competitions before American Idol. I'm not sure why you're taking it so personally. It's nothing against Kelly at all. |
I don't think the UK format made any huge stars before Kelly though, did it? I remember Will Young, but I don't think he's as successful.
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Originally posted by North & South
Awesome for Kelly and WIR 
Hope everyone had an awesome holiday!! Much needed break away from the computer 
Happy New Year and welcome to the new people here |
haaaiiiii North.....
AND WELCOME EVERYONE ))
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Originally posted by MissedTheTrain
It bugs me when people say that, they're acting like she didn't have to work for her big break and had it handed to her. Kelly did work her ass off for 2 years trying to find her big break, having doors slammed in her face and projects fall through…Idol was just her door into the industry. Her door into the industry is no different than others.....XTina's door was sending her demo to Disney and being discovered through that. Beyonce w/ Destiny's Child auditioned for record labels and got signed by one. The only difference with Kelly was that she had America watching her every week and voting for her.
Also, we've all seen that these shows do not guarantee success by any means. Although it has the pro of building an audience off the bat, it also has its cons….when Kelly first started out, she had to work extra hard to prove that she was more than a talent show winner and that she wasn't just having her 15 minutes of fame, like a lot of people tried to say.
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Thankfully Breakaway was the album to prove that, it shut up all the critics when it sold 15 million copies worldwide. 
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I t's a shame if I still jamming with WIR?  maybe I should jam with the instrumental versions and steal the xmas spirit on the songs  |
Me too.... such a great album )
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Originally posted by Bloo
Thankfully Breakaway was the album to prove that, it shut up all the critics when it sold 15 million copies worldwide.
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I see what you did there 
But yes, I agree
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Originally posted by Cupid
Star Search had no impact? Lol ok..
American Idol wasn't the first WW singing competition... It's a copy of a UK format, there were plenty of competitions before American Idol. I'm not sure why you're taking it so personally. It's nothing against Kelly at all.
And of course those shows I mentioned aren't relevant now because they are old, but they still had impact within their time like Idol did. |
Worldwide? No. Star Search didn't had a impact. And the show had no credibility since none of those +/- 26 winners had a successful career. And how am I taking it personally, it's only a discussion  That's what I hate about forums, everything is so misread and misinterpreted.
American Idol is a legendary competition show who actually produced stars. I can't say the same for many competitions in the past and present.
ETA: And I never heard of that Young and Gates guy
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