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Discussion: Bey using Space Shuttle disaster in XO: thoughts?
Member Since: 8/23/2010
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Originally posted by Merryweather
Y'all always say that when someone has a valid criticism of her. First the Anna Mae thing was no big deal, and now this isn't either. You'll go to any lengths to defend her.
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Now look who is talking. lol.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by pink.hearts
you pointed out someone earlier for being off topic and that's exactly what you're doing right now. stop trying to grasp for any and everything
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It's a Beyonce song isn't it, and it's on the same album as XO, and it's also come under controversy, so no it's not as off-topic as bringing up a whole other artist and the way they interact with fans.
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Member Since: 12/14/2011
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Her explanation makes sense and I always figured she was meaning to convey something positive, but I cut the intro out of my audio file too -- I don't want or need to hear that message every time I listen to the song.
She could have executed it more effectively.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by BnPac
Now look who is talking. lol.
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Nah, I can admit my fave has said some really ignorant, racist stuff in the past. I'm sure Bey DID have good intentions, and she didn't intend it to be disrespectful, but that doesn't automatically make it okay to use that audio.
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Member Since: 4/9/2011
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Originally posted by Merryweather
It's a Beyonce song isn't it, and it's on the same album as XO, and it's also come under controversy, so no it's not as off-topic as bringing up a whole other artist and the way they interact with fans.
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this post is clearly about XO and XO only if you want to continue going on and on about how offended you are by her use of the clip in the song fine but bringing in a completely different song from the album because you're trying to find every and anything to be negative is NOT on topic, so stop. the title of the thread says discussion: beyonce using space shuttle disaster in XO not her husband's rap in drunk in love 
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by pink.hearts
this post is clearly about XO and Xo only if you want to continue going on and on about how offended you are by her use of the clip in the song fine but bringing in a completely different song from the album because you're trying to find every and anything to be negative is NOT on topic, so stop. the title of the thread says discussion: beyonce using space shuttle disaster in XO not her husband's rap in drunk in love |
It's a discussion about Beyonce's insensitivity in this song, it's not THAT big of a leap to also cite another instance of it on the same album. You're acting like I'm bringing up a song that came out a decade ago, it's very much relevant in this discussion.
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Member Since: 2/24/2012
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The number of comments in this thread increases fast 
Imagine if the media starts talking about this topic, too.
Beyonce has always been a very politically correct artist, so she probably wants to go for a bit controversy this time.
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Member Since: 4/9/2011
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Originally posted by Merryweather
It's a discussion about Beyonce's insensitivity in this song, it's not THAT big of a leap to also cite another instance of it on the same album. You're acting like I'm bringing up a song that came out a decade ago, it's very much relevant in this discussion.
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yes it is a leap and no it isn't relevant what does anna mae or tina turner have to do with the space shuttle disaster? stop trying to bring up excuses for going off topic, this is just an attempt to try and shine negativity on everything because you're mad for whatever reason. there was already a separate thread and discussion about those lyrics, which im sure you've already seen, you should've shared you concerns there, this isn't the thread for that. and you received a warning for it so clearly it was off topic, im done discussing this
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Member Since: 12/21/2010
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Originally posted by Kang.
Her explanation makes sense and I always figured she was meaning to convey something positive, but I cut the intro out of my audio file too -- I don't want or need to hear that message every time I listen to the song.
She could have executed it more effectively.
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Completely my thoughts & what I did.
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Member Since: 1/8/2012
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I'm not even going to entertain the foolishness and fake sensitivity in this thread. She already explained herself. She was paying tribute to the astronauts and it contributed the meaning of the song. End of.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by pink.hearts
yes it is a leap and no it isn't relevant what does anna mae or tina turner have to do with the space shuttle disaster? stop trying to bring up excuses for going off topic, this is just an attempt to try and shine negativity on everything because you're mad for whatever reason. there was already a separate thread and discussion about those lyrics, which im sure you've already seen, you should've shared you concerns there, this isn't the thread for that.
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How are you not getting the connection between the two? Both are instances of her sampling something terrible that happened to actual people, both were criticized, both can be deemed insensitive, they're both on the SAME album, both are her first two singles. There are a lot of connections there.
If it makes you feel better to just claim I'm mad, then feel free, but I'm really not. I actually like the song XO.
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Member Since: 7/9/2010
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I always noticed it, but never understood what it meant. I can understand both sides of the argument, but it wasn't intended to be in a tacky way.
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Member Since: 3/27/2012
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I can totally see why people have reacted the way they did to her using this, but I think her statement about it is well put and we all know Beyonce does not comment on controversy unless it's something important.
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Member Since: 7/9/2010
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Originally posted by Sept
If this theory is true, i think she's talking about being in love on the verge of death
All the "bright", "light", "glowing" here are what you see when you are on the verge of death. "Turn the lights out" means taking one's life away. When someone is dead, their halo will fade away.
The lyrics is like an answer to Halo  |
Wait 
This makes sense!
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Member Since: 12/14/2011
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The song is not written as a tribute to victims of the disaster either, she instead used a well-known audio clip from the tragedy to amp up/drive home her own creation's mostly unrelated message, which is what gets at me more.
Maybe we should have thought this all the way through.
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Member Since: 12/5/2009
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nothing wrong with making a lil buzz
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by TSGH
Get off your artificial high horse, you clod. Do you think this was the first time that footage has been used, and do you think that every time it is the families have been notified? No. Know why? Because it's public domain. People can watch it anywhere at any time, and can use it in any capacity they wish to.
Whats really offensive is how you, the creator of this thread, and the rest of the silly ass finger wagers feining concern for the families of the victims, simply don't like that it's been a *very* good season for Beyonce and are as transparent as seran wrap with these types of threads.
Go peddle that bogus sanctimoniousness elsewhere, I'm not impressed.
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This is exactly why the BeyHive has been so embarrassing in this thread. Y'all will do anything to call someone else a "hater" for Beyonce even if you all think it means disrespecting dead people. I'm ****ing embarrassed for you.
You may want to read my post again and actually read it this time. I didn't even blame your fave but her team. She has a PR manager so there's no excuse for the family to not be notified. You don't have to get the rights to use public domain, but using the audio for your song without even informing the families is not acceptable.
You must be really deluded if you think the reason people are upset over disrespecting the dead is because of her sales.  I just keep getting more embarrassed for you every time I look at the mess you wrote.
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Member Since: 11/6/2010
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Wow. What's next, using 9/11 footage in one of her music videos? She's pathetic.
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Member Since: 4/22/2012
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Originally posted by Aaron
Wow. What's next, using 9/11 footage in one of her music videos? She's pathetic. |
Did you even read the explanation? Reading is CRUCIAL.
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Member Since: 10/29/2011
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I don't know how I feel about it. I'd have to hear the reasoning behind including it.
ETA: Okay I read the statement. I can see how some would find it insenstive, but I don't think Beyonce had malicious intentions so all the bashing is uncalled for.
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