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Celeb News: Buffy the Vampire Slayer 10 years on: BBC Front Row Special
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Buffy really is one of the greatest shows of all time.
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Originally posted by sd93
Buffy is just the greatest show of all time. Nothing will ever top it for me.
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i agree !!!
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Xena is just so fkn amazing even after all this years  she was the original and will always be the best for me
the whole story is epic,from evil ass bitch to a total hero,the whole redemption story is just >>>>
and the show has so many awesome villains : QUEEN Callisto,Caesar,Ares,Alti,all the other Olympian Gods...etc.etc.. 
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i really LOVED (and still love ) xena, even if i always thought it could be done "better" , from acting , fight scenes (in particular) and visual effect!surely it is a cult show for its themes and for being the first show to have kick ass heroine , it could have matched buffy if it would have been simply better "realized"...buffy in my opinion is a real MASTERPIECE , i never found a show with THAT quality of acting , storylines , humorism , fights and visual effects in 10 years!
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i really LOVED (and still love ) xena, even if i always thought it could be done "better" , from acting , fight scenes (in particular) and visual effect!surely it is a cult show for its themes and for being the first show to have kick ass heroine , it could have matched buffy if it would have been simply better "realized"...buffy in my opinion is a real MASTERPIECE ,
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Yeah, Xena's writing, plot, and tone were very messy and all overthe place. That show didn't know what it was trying to be. Buffy was a show with a solid identity and coherent narrative.
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i never found a show with THAT quality of acting , storylines , humorism , fights and visual effects in 10 years!
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Have you seen Farscape?
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Yeah, Xena's writing, plot, and tone were very messy and all overthe place. That show didn't know what it was trying to be. Buffy was a show with a solid identity and coherent narrative.
Have you seen Farscape?
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never heard about it!!
i really like xena but sometimes it was really badly made especially in the first seasons! anyway my favorite character was gabrielle , i loved when she start fighting with sai!
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i watched only the first season. it was good but nothing fantastic
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Originally posted by RomaZzzRoma
i watched only the first season. it was good but nothing fantastic
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The first season (along with the last two) are the worst ones. The show changes by mid season two.
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Originally posted by RomaZzzRoma
i watched only the first season. it was good but nothing fantastic
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The first season is cute, but it was a mid-season replacement and the writers could only really start to stretch their ambitions when it got renewed for a full season pick up; you haven't even hit the tip of the iceberg with what the show offers.
Like Inverted said, Buffy didn't really strike a cord with its audience and critics and prove its potential until the Surprise / Innocence two parter in Buffy's sophomore year, and the resulting story arc that stretched the last 8 episodes (with Passion and Becoming Part 1 & 2 helping score the slam dunk), with that season's Big Bad and cliffhanger resonating far more than The Master did.
But unlike Inverted, I'm also a big supporter of the sixth season and how it deals with depression and the difficulties that you face navigating life once you leave your teen years and education behind and have to learn to fend for yourself as a working adult.
Despite being a show that focuses on the supernatural, what made Buffy so popular was the way it used that element in the earlier seasons as a literal metaphor for the hellish experience growing up through the education system (it's no mistake that it's Sunnydale High that sits on top of the hellmouth), but in its sixth year it goes out of its way to show you hell really is other people and the hardest thing for Buffy isn't fighting monsters, but simply living life day to day, and I can understand that the bleakness of that turned people off, but I'm appreciating it more and more as I hit the age range of the characters in the show.
Plus, season six also contains the musical episode, which is probably the most referenced when talking about the shows's legacy (along with the silent horror homage Hush). Both of which you should definitely seek out (along with the season 4 finale Restless, which is like a mini art film) even if you haven't got the intention of watching the whole show, because they are three of the best episodes of television ever made, and they work excellently as standalone pieces.
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la mess doctor who did this WAY before buffy, DEATH at them thinking they influenced every bit of magic/alien/monster tv
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“[Buffy the Vampire Slayer] showed the whole world, and an entire sprawling industry, that writing monsters and demons and end-of-the world isn’t hack-work, it can challenge the best. Joss Whedon raised the bar for every writer—not just genre/niche writers, but every single one of us.”
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- Russell T Davies, the person who revived Doctor Who for a modern audience, speaking in 2005.
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Buffy was ahead of its time. The writing, wit, humor, season and character arcs, to it's characters both major and minor(D'hoffryn anyone?), it's "Big Bads", and of course it's life lessons hidden under the guise of supernatural fantasy. Only Joss Whedon's other show, Angel, came close.
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The first season wasn't remarkable, but it can't be faulted for that, because first seasons are often awkward, shows need time to find themselves. The only bad seasons were 4 and 7, aside from those two missteps, each season pretty much continued to get better and better. Season 5 is widely considered he best season, and it does have the tightest story arc and the best Big Bad, but IMO, Season 6 of Buffy is the best season out of all the seasons of Buffy or Angel. That dark, bleak tone and the idea that mundane everyday matters can be scarier than any creatures we could dream up>>>>
I've actually been watching a bit of Buffy for the first time in a few years starting a week or so ago. I decided to watch seasons 5 and 6 again, I forgot how fantastic the show is. So many little things thrown into each episode - a look here, a line here - create such a vibrant engaging atmosphere. Joss Whedon is a TV god, second only to Ronald D. Moore.
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Plus, season six also contains the musical episode, which is probably the most referenced when talking about the shows's legacy (along with the silent horror homage Hush). Both of which you should definitely seek out (along with the season 4 finale Restless, which is like a mini art film) even if you haven't got the intention of watching the whole show, because they are three of the best episodes of television ever made, and they work excellently as standalone pieces.
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You forgot The Body, I'd place that 2nd only to the musical on that list. But Restless was crap. My least favorite Buffy episode ever, I'd say off the top of my head. The artistic trinity is Once More With Feeling, The Body, and Hush.
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Buffy and Charmed :cry:
They don't make shows like they used to
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Buffy is my favorite TV show of all times. Every female character was well written and complex. No other show has made me see the characters as real people like Buffy did.
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You forgot The Body, I'd place that 2nd only to the musical on that list. But Restless was crap. My least favorite Buffy episode ever, I'd say off the top of my head. The artistic trinity is Once More With Feeling, The Body, and Hush.
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The Body is probably Buffy's best episode, but it's so hard to watch because it's too realistic. Last time watched it I was with a friend who lost her mom and it was so awkward because it reminded her of everything she went through when her mother died.
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Buffy, Charmed & Xena are the holy trinity 
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my favorite character was Willow , loved since season 1!!in my opinion was the best character in the show!
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