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Poll: Would you sacrifice BEYONCÉ sales for a top ten hit?
View Poll Results: Would you sacrifice some sales from "BEYONCÉ" for a Top 10?
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Honestly, I would. Not seeing Beyoncé in the Top 10 never really feels right.
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Not a chance. "BEYONCÉ" is platinum and critically-acclaimed. Who cares about a Top 10?
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by Vin
Another false statement. People remember the hits, not the album. Ask a random
citizen on the street, "What is the name of the album that 'Single Ladies'
or 'TiK ToK' came from?" You'll be met with blank stares.
...Vin
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I don't understand where you're going with this. Singles are something that is first and foremost used to promote the album that the single is coming from. Furthermore, they promote the artist as well. Beyonce doesn't need any promotion whatsoever, as shown by the success of this album.
Who in the right mind would rather want to have single success, which means that people like ONE song from you, than album success, which means that people are interested in spending MORE money to get 15+ songs from you and support your career.
I mean album > singles, it's the way that it was, is and ever will be.
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Member Since: 7/9/2010
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Not at all. Album sales >
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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No, I prefer album sales. They're more imressive than a top 10 hit, she already has enough top 10 hits. 24 in total, including the songs she made with two amazing feature artists
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Album sales are definitely more important than scoring Top 10 hits, so no. Anyone who disagrees with this is actually wrong, but I'm not going into that.
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Member Since: 2/27/2012
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I feel like the purpose of a single is to sell your album. Beyonce is selling more in her first few weeks than girls with actual smashes and number ones. I do feel however that there was a lot of hype and exclusivity surrounding the BEYONCE album, which lead to so many buying it, including myself. Luckily the album is well worth the money spent.(I have the physical and iTunes version.)
Anyway like other people have also mentioned, when you get everything all at once you have nothing to look forward too. While Beyonce has some strong single potentials, I can't see her really doing well on the singles front, because everyone already has the album and everyone's already seen the videos. Also she's being played so much that its almost inevitable that she will suffer a bit of over exposure.
Anyway, id rather have the album sales and some top ten hits, but I guess when you're selling like Bey its not really important.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by Beyy
No, I prefer album sales. They're more imressive than a top 10 hit, she already has enough top 10 hits. 24 in total, including the songs she made with two amazing feature artists
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Member Since: 10/18/2010
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A number one platinum-selling album to me is worth WAY more than some flyby top ten singles. The acclaim doesn't come from the GP...
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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I think Drunk in Love and XO could become top 10
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Member Since: 5/25/2010
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Originally posted by Bubi
Since when is being a singer all about money?All of the biggest pop girls have more than enough money than they need,while having a hit is having something that people will remember in the long run.
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I agree. I don't understand the "She's making less money!" arguments.
Beyoncé and Jay Z are megarich. They can "lose out" on a little bit
of change for a couple hit records. It's not that big of a deal.
...Vin
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Originally posted by Vin
None of your points are relevant to the discussion. That's why I've barely responded to them. I'm not going to have a discussion about a Pink Floyd album. I'm not interested. You've repeated the same thing over and over, man. And I'm still not interested. That one-liner post I gave about the internet sums up everything I have to say about all of your posts concerning albums from the distant past. The market was different then and trying to compare or create a correlation between an album from the 60's or 70's -- from Pink Floyd to The Beatles -- to "BEYONCÉ" is 150% irrelevant to the discussion. Not to mention, those albums have been selling for 30 to 40 years. Of course they have massive sales, regardless of singles -- it's been 30 to 40 years of sales. Although I appreciate your input, the bottom line is that I did not respond to your posts because they did not interest me and they were essentially off topic. I was being nicer by simply not responding. I do wish you had another classic rock connoisseur to have continued the conversation with within this discussion thread, despite it being off topic.
...Vin
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Originally posted by J. YONCÉ
And releasing an album with absolutely no before-hand promotion has done that.
Having another hit single would not do anything for her. Releasing an album with no singles before hand is infinitely more advantageous for adding to a legacy than another top 10 hit. One is something that only Beyonce has done, the other is something that even Ke$ha has.
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Step up your reading comprehension Vin. I've explained quite a few different ways why trading album success for single success doesn't make sense from a financial or legacy point of view at this point in Beyonce's career.
This post is especially ironic because the points about classic rock albums were the only ones you actually responded to. At least make an effort to be consistent. If you don't want to talk about other albums, then don't. Talk about all the points I made that were unrelated to other albums. There were plenty of them.
To be fair, you also think that radio isn't a dying format, so it's pretty clear you know absolutely nothing about the music industry on even a basic level. You should do research before you post if you really want your opinions to be taken seriously.
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Originally posted by Sinvius
Beyonce doesn't need any promotion whatsoever, as shown by the success of this album.
Who in the right mind would rather want to have single success, which means that people like ONE song from you.
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You're making quite a couple bold statements here. We mustn't get ahead of ourselves --
Beyoncé does still need promotion. All artists do, and will always need promotion.
Secondly, having single success doesn't necessarily translate into the public
liking only one song from an album or artist. See, "Teenage Dream."
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Originally posted by J. YONCÉ
You know absolutely nothing about the music industry on even a basic level. Don't confuse your inability to stay on topic with mine. You should do research before you post.
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I've also didn't reply to your posts because you come off defensive in many of them, as noted
above. The defensive ones are the ones you avoid having conversations with. They have
the tendency to take criticism of their favorite artist personally and, in turn, insult
you personally, which results in warning points, et cetera. All unneeded.
No need to reply to this post. Again, thank you for your contribution
to the conversation and I appreciate your effort, however this
will be my last reply to you within this thread, old sport.
...Vin
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Member Since: 2/24/2012
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Originally posted by satellites.™
Not at all, the purpose of singles is to sell the album.
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That was true some decades ago, not now.
Singles does more than just assisting album sales.
Susan Boyle has (had) great album sales, but nobody really remembers them well after a few years (sans a few hit songs)
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Member Since: 8/31/2013
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Nope... especially since she could easily still get one... her singles have never really been instant successes.
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Member Since: 12/16/2008
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No, I mean, the album is selling shitloads of copies so I'm fine with it!
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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The whole point of singles is to promote and sell the album they're cut from. If the album is already selling through the roof without a hit single, then meh...who cares...
Album sales > hit singles.
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Originally posted by Vin
You're making quite a couple bold statements here. We mustn't get ahead of ourselves --
Beyoncé does still need promotion. All artists do, and will always need promotion.
Secondly, having single success doesn't necessarily translate into the public
liking only one song from an album or artist. See, "Teenage Dream."
I've also didn't reply to your posts because you come off defensive in many of them, as noted
above. The defensive ones are the ones you avoid having conversations with. They have
the tendency to take criticism of their favorite artist personally and, in turn, insult
you personally, which results in warning points, et cetera. All unneeded.
No need to reply to this post. Again, thank you for your contribution
to the conversation and I appreciate your effort, however this
will be my last reply to you within this thread, old sport.
...Vin
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So you're admitting that you have no valid responses to my points? The more you talk, the more off topic you become. Its starting to sound as though you feel backed into a corner and are grasping at straws to avoid having to defend your argument.
I'm confused as to why you asked the question if you didn't want to hear answers that differed from yours.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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...oh, and look at those poll results. Heh. Guess most people see that album sales are far more important than cheap little hit singles.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Never.
But I am sure BEYONCE will have hits ... She hasn't promoted etc.. Let's wait until next year ..
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Member Since: 4/6/2011
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the problem is that most artists are defined by their hit songs. that's what makes them memorable. singles ladies was her last big hit and until she has at least another top 10 her music will just be forgotten over time.
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Originally posted by Reza
the problem is that most artists are defined by their hit songs. that's what makes them memorable. singles ladies was her last big hit and until she has at least another top 10 her music will just be forgotten over time.
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This isn't necesarilly true for artists who are performing legends. Look how long Barbra Streisand has sustained a career after her last big hit. As you said, Beyonce already has plenty of top 10 hits, and they clearly helped her sell the Mrs. Carter Show already. I just don't see how she "needs" another one by any stretch of the imagination. Why would one top 10 hit in 2014 be that vital to her legacy? Its not logical.
Surely we wouldn't argue that GMAYL was essential to maintaining Madonna's legacy just because its her most recent top 10.
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