Originally posted by CrossingTheCosmo Let all the white people in the world use the line for all I care. That wasn't the point. The point was that I (CrossingTheCosmo) feel as though in black communities the line is very well known and takes on a different face beyond the surface level message from which it stems.

I see. I thought you were trying to point that. As I said, we don't know what Jay was thinking when he came up with the line, Beyoncé has always stated she is a huge Tina Turner follower, so I don't think they tried to make reference to what she lived, as you said, it's a well known line in the black community so they probably didn't try to offend anyone.

Originally posted by One Nation That scene in Whats Love... is iconic though. And why are people taking these lyrics so literal? Anyone else remember Biggy paying homage to the 1993 WTC bombings in one of his most iconic songs?

YES at Beyonce getting all you girls to write such thought provoking essays over a line in a song she recorded when she was drunk

This.

Originally posted by ManDown When I first figured it out, I was kind of shocked because Beyonce and Tina seemed tight (I mean, they even performed together on the Grammys). But I wasn't really offended. It's one of those lyrics that Jay included for shock value.