I think Femme Fatale sold 1.7m WW, correct me if I'm wrong Army. 4 sold +1.3m in the US.

Those "whack sales" are in the same range as TTT and UA 3M

Yes. This is true but GMC said it sold more than FF did WW just in the US when it didn't close. It's close though.

Do you really want us to remember the DC eras? Are you saying that DC = Beyonce? If so let's talk receipts because girl this changes a lot.

Anyway Beyonce's first 100+ grossing tour was seven albums into her overall career. Rihanna's first was seven albums into her overall career. So what are you getting at?

What are you talking about? So damn extra and dramatic. She didn't do anymore or less promo than any other musician, who you know does this thing called performs the music they made,because that is what musicians actually do. And since when are 4 sales whack? If that's the case you are dragging your own fave to the pits of hell! #1's and hit ballads and the chick can't outsell her in the US and barely outsold her WW! Rih consistently only hits platinum and that's Beyoncé's worst solo certification!

Right? Always bringing up DC when it's convenient!

I'm grandmomcookies bitch !

And I'm talking about art pop

Is this really your perspective the promo she did? I seem to remember a few WHYB performances, a Birthday Cake/Talk that Talk medley, and a highly publicized remix coming out.

This is what's to funny. They want to use DC to shade her, but they forget that what they're doing is adding an additional 60+ million records and like 15 more hits to her resume

I do that anyway though, so I don't care.

I like beyonce n stuff BUT by the time Rihanna 32 she'll be the biggest black female music act of our time. She would have reached 17 #1's by then ( if she keeps going @ this rate). Beyonce is consistent but so is Rihanna.

Beyonce 1st WW tour and 3 years into her SOLO career grossed 100+

stop trying to add on 4 years

Beyoncé has been the biggest superstar* in music industry for the longest, from all the big pop girls that debuted after Madonna.

So, yes.

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* an artist with a huge appeal including sold out concert tours, awards, being talked about, being mentioned as big example for a lot of artists that came after her, being a role model etc.

I have no doubt that Rihanna will continue to grow but Rihanna is consistent through a different means. Her yearly eras matched with yearly looks and a yearly sonic overhaul keeps her interesting. I wonder how her consistency would fare if she released music that didn't fit into the pop landscape.

DC has nothing to do with solo Bey's career. A group can't help you as a solo artist, if that was the case Mel Bey, Nicole Scherzinger and the TLC members should all be huge successful solo acts. Yet they are not even close. Bey got her first100+ mill tour 5yrs into her career, unlike Rih who took almost a decade to gross 100+ mil. Not to mention her first 2 albums flopped. Again, the most consistent female artists are Bey and Pink, Taylor Swift would come in 3rd.