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Celeb News: Venus clocks Rihanna
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In 2009, DJ Venus X, along with her friend Shayne Oliver, the designer of Hood By Air, started GHE20 GOTH1K, an underground party held in NYC turned movement based on freedom of expression. It created a subculture out of a void: “The gay parties [were] corny and the straight parties [had] no gay people. There’s next level **** going on, but converge! We never see them converge,” Venus told FADER, a year into the party.
Lately, Rihanna has adopted GHE20 GOTH1K as her own #ghettogoth hashtag, pairing it with pictures of her darker post-mullet look. See: the tattered Clash shirt she recently wore as a dress with sooty eyes and a choker. (It wouldn’t be the first time she appropriated a subculture. Recall her use of seapunk imagery on “Saturday Night Life.”) Venus recently vented about Rihanna’s use of #ghettogoth on Twitter and the singer failed to credit its origin, GHE20 GOTH1K. On the eve of the release of “What Now,” Rihanna’s new “red carpet goth”-themed music video, we reached out to Venus as she was on her way home from touring as M.I.A.’s DJ about Rihanna’s appropriation.
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How do you feel about street style’s rise in mainstream fashion? I think it’s great that fashion is becoming more in tune with the urban practical, people-of-color aesthetic. But it sucks that there’s no place for the influencers to be involved, and that they’re profiting off street culture.
Why do you think that Rihanna is using the phrase? It really upsets me that Rihanna’s exploiting the term so much. It’s hard to tell who really got the fire burning in her about ghetto goth. She’s friends with A$AP Rocky and I’m sure he’s used it around her. Her stylist has known about our party and has been coming to it for a long time. It would be amazing if she was working with the people who started GHE20 GOTH1K and was like, “I’m going to celebrate the premiere of my ghetto goth video at GHE20 GOTH1K.” But she’s too much of a bitch to do that: I saw her recently and invited her to the party and she gave me the nastiest attitude. She was a little bit embarrassed. Maybe whoever told her about ghetto goth didn’t tell her that it’s a real living, breathing thing that we do a lot. So she must have felt pretty stupid being checked on a Saturday night, at an Alexander Wang party, by me. I was like, “Since you want to hashtag it so much, you’re more than welcome to come to the night.” Her response was, “I’ll think about it,” and she rolled her eyes.
She and her team run out of ideas everyday because she’s an Instagram freak and she needs a new post everyday. She’s a parasite—that’s what pop stars are these days. They don’t participate in culture other than to create these religious, vapid experiences for people. If she wants to use the hashtag without referencing the culture, that’s no different from all the other types of appropriation in the music industry, fashion, and art. She thinks it’s just clothes but it’s my life and family. My brother works the door, my sister was running the list, my girlfriend was making the videos, my best friend was DJing, my close friend was bartending. It’s not fashion.
If Rihanna gave a shout-out to GHE20 GOTH1K, would you feel differently? Of course. But instead of doing that, she just tweeted and Instagrammed inflammatory comments and pictures. My ex-girlfriend and I were hanging out with her and I was telling her about the party—and I could tell that they had a little flirtation going on—and we took a picture of ourselves and Instagrammed it at Rihanna with the caption, “I know you feel some type of way,” just as a joke. So what does she do? She takes a picture of herself, or a paparazzi picture, and the next day she tweets, “This bitch I’m wit got you feelin some type o’ way #ghettogoth.” She doesn’t even acknowledge the party and then she blatantly steals my caption. It’s just getting weird.
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Why did i think this was going to be about the song 
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I highly doubt that Rihanna knew anything about the "Ghetto Goth" subculture besides the term being tossed around in styling meetings and photoshoots.
I understand her frustration, but she's going about it the wrong way. Vilifying Rihanna is not helping her, and neither is harassing her at parties and on social media.
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Why did i think this was going to be about the song |
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Oh dear. "Ghetto goth" is just a compound of two very common styles. This random girl does not hold ownership over it.
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Why did i think this was going to be about the song |
I was already wondering which lyrics could be referencing to Rihanna
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I'm like... how could a song clock Rihanna 
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Oh.
I don't think Rih knows about her movement.
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How would you define ghetto goth?
It is not a fashion hashtag for Rihanna to use, who doesn’t come to the parties and has no political reference point, that’s for sure. GHE20 GOTH1K is extremely political. It’s not about expensive clothes.
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Girl.... shes taking it way too seriously.
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Oh my god.. reading it over... I cant at how butt hurt this girl is.
It's actually amusing 
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Why did i think this was going to be about the song |
Same
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“I’ll think about it,” and she rolled her eyes
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bae u don't even know how much i <3 u
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And we should care about a women named 'Venus' being mad at Rihanna because....? 
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Girl. 
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Her response was, “I’ll think about it,” and she rolled her eyes.
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nnn yes ICON 
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She also has this on her twitter with the caption "Proof they all stole Selena's style.
She's one of those people who probably make irrelevant little connection that aren't really there.
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But, but , but... Rihanna is original and experimental. She coined the phrase "Ghetto Goth"
And DEAD @ y'all acting like Rihanna doesn't know what Ghetto Goth is.
Venus is the girl that used to **** with ASAP AND DRAKE when she used to try and play straight but she's a lesbian.
DRAKE MAYBE MENTIONED VENUS IN CONVO AND RIHANNA WANTED TO STEAL. ALSO, ALL THE OPENING CEREMONY PEOPLE HAVE USED VENUS FOR A LOT OF THEIR PARTIES AND SHE BASICALLY RUNS THE NEW YORK UNDERGROUND SCENE, WITH A FEW OTHER CLUB KIDS. AND GUESS WHO MADE AN APPEARANCE AT THE OC FASHION .... RIHANNA
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Rihanna probably doesn't know this chick and her movement. Plus, "ghetto goth" isn't the most obscure thing in the world. Tell her to get over herself.
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