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News: Only ~50 black men make up UCLA Freshmen class of 5700
Member Since: 4/17/2011
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Originally posted by Timber
Nnnn did you end up going to Berkeley?
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No, I ended up going to Chicago.  I ended up leaving Chicago after my freshmen year though and tried transfering to UC Berkeley. They told me to go to a community college and transfer when I reach 60 units, because they only accep upper division undergrads for transfer.  I should be there Fall 2014 though.
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Member Since: 12/10/2011
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Originally posted by TikiMiss
Because a lot of those benefits took place decades ago. Since then, white females have surpassed white males in GPAs and SAT scores, as well as general admission to the best colleges/universities so AA really doesn't apply to them anymore.
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But, see it's the exact same thing with black females and black males. Surely, you aren't going to say based off that then AA doesn't apply to black females anymore?
In fact black women are the "most educated group" of people nearly equaling their population percentage in degrees. White women are second.
White women get 54% of white degrees, black women getting 68% is a substantial difference, especially since as the rate of one side increases, the other sex decreases accordingly. So the 14% difference between white and black women, means that black women are twice the difference more likely to get a degree. So if they are 14% more likely than white women, it makes them 28% additionally more likely than black men to have a degree, on top of the difference already present on the white side.
So its a huge deal, where white men are 85% as likely to have a degree, black men are 47% as likely to have a degree as women of the particular races in question.
Does this mean that AA doesn't "really" apply to black females anymore? Of course not, just as what you're saying doesn't mean AA doesn't "really" apply to white females, it does which, like I said, is evidenced by them being the largest beneficiaries.
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Member Since: 8/31/2012
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Originally posted by Praise Mariallah
But, see it's the exact same thing with black females and black males. Surely, you aren't going to say based off that then AA doesn't apply to black females anymore?
In fact black women are the "most educated group" of people nearly equaling their population percentage in degrees. White women are second.
White women get 54% of white degrees, black women getting 68% is a substantial difference, especially since as the rate of one side increases, the other sex decreases accordingly. So the 14% difference between white and black women, means that black women are twice the difference more likely to get a degree. So if they are 14% more likely than white women, it makes them 28% additionally more likely than black men to have a degree, on top of the difference already present on the white side.
So its a huge deal, where white men are 85% as likely to have a degree, black men are 47% as likely to have a degree as women of the particular races in question.
Does this mean that AA doesn't "really" apply to black females anymore? Of course not, just as what you're saying doesn't mean AA doesn't "really" apply to white females, it does which, like I said, is evidenced by them being the largest beneficiaries.
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In comparison, black females are definitely a lot better off than black males in terms of education, preparedness, etc.
But in comparison to white males and females:
huge gap. AA should still (under its original intents) apply to black females because they still aren't being represented at normal levels. Black males, even more so.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Beyond Say
No, I ended up going to Chicago. I ended up leaving Chicago after my freshmen year though and tried transfering to UC Berkeley. They told me to go to a community college and transfer when I reach 60 units, because they only accep upper division undergrads for transfer. I should be there Fall 2014 though. |
Mess. I'm unfortunately stuck in a community college with only 1 class left to transfer into a UC. The problem is that I'm clueless as to what I want my career to be, and I'm not here for spending money on something I'm unsure about.
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Member Since: 12/10/2011
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Originally posted by TikiMiss
In comparison, black females are definitely a lot better off than black males in terms of education, preparedness, etc.
But in comparison to white males and females:
huge gap. AA should still (under its original intents) apply to black females because they still aren't being represented at normal levels. Black males, even more so. |
That graph is super old sis. Look at the birth years. 
My numbers are collected from various recent articles (most of them being from 2013, black women have come up tremendously.)
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Member Since: 8/31/2012
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Originally posted by Timber
Mess. I'm unfortunately stuck in a community college with only 1 class left to transfer into a UC. The problem is that I'm clueless as to what I want my career to be, and I'm not here for spending money on something I'm unsure about.
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word of advice. Just take classes and follow a path you think will make you most happy and passionate. I and almost all of my friends ended up going down paths none of us predicted when we started college or even in the middle of it, and we're happier because of it. I don't think I would be happy sitting in Law School today, as I had planned, instead of what I am doing.
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Member Since: 8/31/2012
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Originally posted by Praise Mariallah
That graph is super old sis. Look at the birth years.
My numbers are collected from various recent articles (most of them being from 2013, black women have come up tremendously.) |
this comes from the U.S. 2010 census sis 
I don't think 3 years can make such a huge difference.
And it would make sense that birth years would stop around mid 1980s...'cuz it's showing 26+ yr olds with bachelors (as some people start late or end later)
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Member Since: 12/10/2011
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Originally posted by TikiMiss
this comes from the U.S. 2010 census sis
I don't think 3 years can make such a huge difference.
And it would make sense that birth years would stop around mid 1980s...'cuz it's showing 26+ yr olds with bachelors (as some people start late or end later) |
Doesn't matter if the graph was made in 2010, 1910-1980 is a huuuge reach. Most people born in 1910 are dead, segregation literally didn't stop until like the late 60s/early 70s, and people born in 1980 are going on 34 this upcoming year. I mean people born in 96 are going to college this upcoming year...
Today, in this day in age, black women are succeeding at a much faster pace/rate than other groups. Yes, they are a very small portion of the population, but still.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by TikiMiss
word of advice. Just take classes and follow a path you think will make you most happy and passionate. I and almost all of my friends ended up going down paths none of us predicted when we started college or even in the middle of it, and we're happier because of it. I don't think I would be happy sitting in Law School today, as I had planned, instead of what I am doing.
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Yeah that's pretty much what I'm doing at the moment. I like a lot of the subjects but I just can't imagine myself working in any of those fields everyday while being happy.
All I know is that I hate repetitive work, and presenting.
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Member Since: 3/22/2011
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Have they ever thought that black students don't even apply there unless they're athletes? There is always another side to the story. I mean, where are the stats for that?
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Member Since: 12/13/2011
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Originally posted by Beatfreak
WAT
You can get a GPA OVER 4.0? wtf in the world
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honors classes
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Member Since: 8/31/2012
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Originally posted by Timber
Yeah that's pretty much what I'm doing at the moment. I like a lot of the subjects but I just can't imagine myself working in any of those fields everyday while being happy.
All I know is that I hate repetitive work, and presenting.
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hmm. You should look at business. Maybe consider working for someplace like Accenture (consulting where you stay in one location for a maximum of 6 months before jetting off somewhere else to consult for another company) and then getting an MBA and seeing if you can land a job at a big firm like Bain or Mckinsey. Consulting is fun 'cuz you are doing strategic work and thinking for multiple interesting companies.
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Member Since: 9/16/2011
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Originally posted by Timber
They really do try to bring in diversity, but it's really not fair for a more common raced person to not get accepted even though they have better stats than those of the less common race.  |
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Member Since: 2/6/2012
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Originally posted by Beatfreak
WAT
You can get a GPA OVER 4.0? wtf in the world
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Depends on the state/district. In mine it was not possible to go over 4.0. It was a perfect grade.
Even for AP/Honors/IB/CE classes. All the same in my state.
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Member Since: 5/28/2010
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Yes he better DRAG UCLA.
USC >>>>
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Well when I went to UCLA I didn't see many blacks, definitely more whites and Asian. Where I am right now, UC Berkeley, I see literally more than 50% Asian. I was first overwhelmed at all the Asians, and definitely felt left out.
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Member Since: 11/8/2011
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I go to UCLA right now and there are VERY few black people. There are just a **** ton of Asians and white people. It kind of sucks because this campus isn't diverse as they say it is. And the number of internationals from Asia is just 
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Member Since: 3/5/2011
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My school only has like 150 or something like that.
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Member Since: 5/18/2012
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Not surprised actually. UCLA and other top UC schools are mostly Asians. I've actually heard this puts people off because they'll feel left out. Maybe thats another reason why there's little minorities at those schools.
Also, its surprising seeing as how its California. and not somewhere like Maine where its mostly whites. The universities in New York, are mostly diverse. So I never had to worry too much besides some privates in Upstate.
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Member Since: 3/8/2012
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It's not the universities fault that few black people have the qualifications to get in...
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