No, Ciara was just keeping Rihanna's stage warm until she arrived.

Absolutely!

Yes,but it was just so small that no one noticed

Basically this. Also, coupled with the fact that her initial blow up was built on a trendy sound that peaked in popularity early in her career leaving her without a lane so to speak once it fell off completely.

Her wagon was hitched to a dying horse and she's had trouble re-establishing a niche for herself since then. Two completely different situations that have nothing to do with another girl becoming successful. Rihanna established herself in pop -- completely different lanes and primary audiences.

I mean, aside from a few big hits, Ciara was never really that big. She along with the others were always in Bey's shadow before Rih came along.

But Ciara's Body Party has out charted most of the 10 million flop singles released on Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded + Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded – The Re-Up .. I really don't understand how you could say Ciara is done, sweetheart

Ciara never wanted Go Girl ft. T Pain to be the lead single, but her label forced her. When the song didn't see success, they then pushed it as a promo single and the song didn't have any promo other than a music video, so it flopped.



1. Music Industry was facing a downfall in sales because of sites like Limewire ect. Like 80% of the album was LEAKED nearly a YEAR before release and the general public had already heard and downloaded the album.

2. Label chose the lead single "Go Girl"/Did not support Ciara's artistic vision. The song was then labeled a 'promo single'.

3. Never Ever was chosen as lead single but wasn't promoted like one. Music video didn't have the charisma or potential to grab attention.

4. Album was pushed back nearly 4 times and fans were getting fed up with the release dates, songs leaking, lackluster of promotion.

5. Fake Beyonce beef the media promoted, making stan wars with Ciara and Beyonce stans.

6. Love Sex Magic introduced Ciara's POP sound, which many fans didn't connect with or understood at the time.

7. The Original flawless album cover was changed to the hideous cheap mixtape looking "Cornrows" picture. Fans were disappointed, and at that point everything just started to look a mess, not only to the general public but the die hard stans as well.

7. Love Sex Magic hit he Top 10 on Hot 100, but the general public wasn't here for "Pop Ciara".

8. Then the whole Chris Brown situation didn't allow the label to release "Turntables" ft. Chris Brown as the next single, so they went with "Work" instead. Work was only released in the UK and Europe and received no promo in the US despite a fierce video.



So basically, Ciara's label ****ed everything up for her and it became very clear that they wanted to get rid of Ciara because both her and the label didn't come to terms in creative ideas and artistic vision during that whole era.

Not a whole damn essay

Ciara was never a main girl, point blank.

That dissertation though

Like, girl....

Her multiple hits, Billboard Woman of the Year award, Her 3x platinum album, her #1 Billboard Top 200 platinum seling album,and her Grammy disagree.


I mean let's not get cocky now, it took Rihanna like two mixtapes and 5 studio albums to get to #1 on the Billboard Top 200.

Ciara was bigger than Rihanna in the U.S. until Umbrella.
Evolution outsold A Girl Like Me despite AGLM having a smash hit #1 lead single SOS

This is not an argument on who's more successful, because it's obviously Rihanna, but the whole point is that Rihanna did not steal the spotlight from Ciara, because they both had very different lanes, and Ciara's downfall was caused by her label, not by Rihanna.

It wasn't until 2011, that Ciara and Rihanna began beefing and at that point Ciara was no longer with Jive Records

once again you're jumping out the window with your rebuttals.
- You're talking about how long it took Rihanna to get a number 1 album while ignoring the fact that many people have multiple number 1 albums but have yet to go platinum after a year.

Um Rihanna was ALWAYS under Beyonce's shadow just until Good Girl Gone Bad was released.

Ciara NEVER was under anyone's shadow, until Fantasy Ride.

But Ciara did go platinum with her #1 album..... and she also had a 3x platinum album under her belt.

It wasn't until Good Girl Gone Bad that Rihanna started selling albums, but even then she still couldn't top the charts right until last year.

Don't being B into this. She's was and still is in a lane above these women.

Ciara born to be local and Rihanna born and was raised (by JAY Z) to be global. That's all.

Just like Roman Reloaded, Basic Instinct was a self funded release and the label didn't ship that many copies to begin with,.....

You're the on claiming Ciara is OVER, yet her single is the biggest female urban single release this year......

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