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Originally posted by coddiecollins
i understand what u say... we just want a riskier choice ...that if it succeed it will be great..
a safer pop song will have moderate success without performances and promo...
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And you think a ballad would have a better chance, without performances and promo. Cause if she isn't promoting an up tempo, do you honestly think she would be more inclined to do that for a ballad of all things. 
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Originally posted by Mr Telephone Man
People who think "mature songs" only sell albums are the same ****tards who voted for Criminal and ruined everything 
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LOL.
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Originally posted by jomarr
I still can't ****ing believe 'Criminal' won the ****ing poll. BY A LARGE MARGIN 
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That shows you what Monsters and the Beyhiv will do to sabotage Britney's chance at a hit 4th single.
You know they were pushing those multivotes.
I would have preferred drop dead basic before criminal and I was over uptempos.
Inside out should have been chosen and then close the era out with UP n DOWN tour performance to cross promote the DVD. Too good to be true.
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Originally posted by Mr Telephone Man
"It will sell the album" they said...
"It will earn her respect" they said...
"Everytime 2.0" they said..
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They must have forgotten to take their meds.
Criminal is not even Don't let me be the first to debut level radio friendly.
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Originally posted by Louie
Ruined everything? Bitch that era was already dead and buried by the time we chose the 4th single, it didn't ruin anything, it actually gave us the best video from that entire era.
And mature songs do sell albums. Ask P!nk, Mariah Carey, and then go ask Advil Lavigne.
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Advil is an album seller, Mariah has pushed back her album for 2 years now...Pink is a pop/hot ac artist not a pop artist like Britney
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Originally posted by Mr Telephone Man
And what came first? What gave P!nk her best opening week? Her first #1 album? What got the publics attention? The first single did.
Right now, Britney basically doesn't have a single out.
Also, some of you have such a limited definition and grasp of pop
Uptempo =dance = club banger = generic = wont sell
Ballad. =mature = risky = will sell
I've never said she has to go run to David Guetta and Dr. Luke. You can do a straight up pop song that is appealing to the masses without being cookie cutter, pop music =/= Ke$ha and Katy. Naughty Boy's La La La is catchy, is radio friendly, and appealed to the masses while not being generic, very much like Circus, and both were easily digestible( i.e. Not jarring like Work Bitch) .
What is so hard to understand, it is like I'm talking to a damn brick wall?!?!
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LOL so true.
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Originally posted by coddiecollins
i understand what u say... we just want a riskier choice ...that if it succeed it will be great..
a safer pop song will have moderate success without performances and promo...
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Um, not this being stated post-WB. 
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Originally posted by Louie
Work Bitch has over 40 million views on YouTube alone. It's hardly the nonexistent flop you're making it seem. Everytime wasn't a success because it came after Toxic. Why did Criminal flop, when it came after her biggest solo radio hit? 
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What about chart smashes like Not A Girl, Not Yet A Woman?
Or, Don't Let Me Be The Last To Know?
And what do those have in common?
My point was never a ballad needs a hit to be released, it was quite simply:
No. One. Is. Checking. For. A. Britney. Ballad.
Sorry. But at least give Britney Jean a fighting chance before throwing her to an area that has never been her strong point. One hit ballad, is an exception...not the rule.
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People only pay attention to Britney's first 2 singles. The fact that she hasn't released a ballad as a first or 2nd single is very telling in itself that we cannot judge how a Britney ballad would do on the charts until it happens.
I think Perfume will slay
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When Perfume hits #1, I'll remember this conversation, page 1966. Easy to remember. And I will drag you to the pits of the base when it happens. So now let's drop the subject until Perfume is released, that's how we should keep it Mr. Telephone Man
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Originally posted by Louie
Work Bitch has over 40 million views on YouTube alone. It's hardly the nonexistent flop you're making it seem. Everytime wasn't a success because it came after Toxic. Why did Criminal flop, when it came after her biggest solo radio hit? 
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Not people using video, audio to amplify their point.
WB is not a hit...its not a flop.
Noone said Everytime was a success because it came after toxic but that it benefited from the smash that was Toxic and was strategically genius because after a smash like toxic they couldn't follow it up with another uptempo to do better so they went with a ballad that was good and offered a different side.
Now, they need a classic dance pop song radio friendly a l a toxic and THEN release everytime 2.0 so that people already have a dance smash and see another side of the album.
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Originally posted by Mr Telephone Man
And you think a ballad would have a better chance, without performances and promo. Cause if she isn't promoting an up tempo, do you honestly think she would be more inclined to do that for a ballad of all things. 
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LOL exactly. People tend to think one-sided.
I can't wait for a ballad to be released but I also want to be smart about it as well. Without WB, I'd be here for Perfume 2nd but now it's better to go 3rd.
I'm glad Larry showed that they had some reservations about releasing Perfume despite seeming adamant before WB performance that it would be released sooner than later.
they are paying attention.
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Originally posted by Mr Telephone Man
And you think a ballad would have a better chance, without performances and promo. Cause if she isn't promoting an up tempo, do you honestly think she would be more inclined to do that for a ballad of all things. 
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first i believe that a ballad or a midtempo will do good on britneys image
second we r talking about the second single so promo is happening for sure when the album will be released....
plus a ballad or a midtempo can have success without much promo cause its a song that u can connect too....see stay ( she did one perf in grammys ) someone like u , just give me a reason...
another pop song will not make any difference ...
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Originally posted by slw84
Not people using video, audio to amplify their point.
WB is not a hit...its not a flop.
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WB is a HUGE flop
it hasnt even sold 500k ww after a month
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Originally posted by jomarr
I still can't ****ing believe 'Criminal' won the ****ing poll. BY A LARGE MARGIN 
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I'm still pressed that Inside Out didn't win that poll. 
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Confession Time: I don't want her to release another uptempo because she already danced her arse off to Work Bitch (according to her anyway), now between her Vegas rehearsals and interviews, you think she has enough time (or effort) to learn another routine, given Britney's current motivation?

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Originally posted by coddiecollins
WB is a HUGE flop
it hasnt even sold 500k ww after a month
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It has surpassed 500k, unless your source is Mediatraffic lolz
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Originally posted by Louie
Confession Time: I don't want her to release another uptempo because she already danced her arse off to Work Bitch (according to her anyway), now between her Vegas rehearsals and interviews, you think she has enough time (or effort) to learn another routine, given Britney's current motivation?

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she is already reherasing so it possible 
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Originally posted by Louie
People only pay attention to Britney's first 2 singles. The fact that she hasn't released a ballad as a first or 2nd single is very telling in itself that we cannot judge how a Britney ballad would do on the charts until it happens.
I think Perfume will slay
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Crazy says hello, Stronger say hola, Everytime say salut, I I I wanna go o o (still trying to make this title happen: admittedly pressed) says Konnichiwa. I'm glad she doesn't have any other hit 3rd singles...I only know a few languages.
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Originally posted by coddiecollins
first i believe that a ballad or a midtempo will do good on britneys image
second we r talking about the second single so promo is happening for sure when the album will be released....
plus a ballad or a midtempo can have success without much promo cause its a song that u can connect too....see stay ( she did one perf in grammys ) someone like u , just give me a reason...
another pop song will not make any difference ...
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Well either way as long as she promotes I just hope you all understand how important a classic radio friendly but different (a la toxic) pop song can cement this era and then ballads, midtempos and other uptempos can add to it. This era needs a foundation and singing about some damn perfume might not do it.
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When's the last time Britney sang a ballad on live television before? In 2004 since Everytime?
If Perfume is released as the 2nd single we better pray to the heavens that those visits to the vocal coach payed off and she is actually willing to try and sing live 
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Originally posted by coddiecollins
WB is a HUGE flop
it hasnt even sold 500k ww after a month
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It's her least successful lead single for sure. At least Slave, Me against the music and even My prerogative were worldwide hits. Work Brit doesn't even have that 
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Originally posted by Louie
It has surpassed 500k, unless your source is Mediatraffic lolz
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so it sold 550k and that makes it successful ?
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I was all for a ballad 2nd single when Work Bitch sitll had a chance. It doesn't anymore, and the GP needs to be reminded of what Britney does best (and it is NOT dance/EDM tracks, will.i.am): classic Pop with that originality that only her can bring to the table, as in tracks like Toxic, Piece Of Me, Womanizer, Circus and yeah, even TTWE.
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Originally posted by Louie
I want a ****ing ballad. Forget the charts, cause somebody loves ya.
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Originally posted by Louie
Yes ****ing ballads **** off you chips once she ****ing announces perfume i will be back here to lol, lmao and rofl at you bye
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Originally posted by Louie
Unconditionally is about as mature as Advil Lavigne. We need something like Criminal.
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Originally posted by Louie
I'm getting so turnt up for Perfume.
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Originally posted by Louie
A second club banger might either flop or do moderately, and yet even if it did moderately it won't sell the album. She needs to change-change it up or else floppage will be inevitable.
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Originally posted by Louie
She needs to release Perfume like yesterday.
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Originally posted by Louie
Perfume will slay, slay it up.
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Originally posted by Louie
Perfume will define her career for the next 10 years in the same way Toxic did.
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Originally posted by Louie
Perfume.
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Originally posted by Louie
Womanizer, Circus and TTWE were club bangers.
You know i'm right. The slayage will be impeccable to witness. The Queen of Pop, her successful ballads u-turn that gave ha her first true #1 that sat at the top for 3+ weeks and went 4x platinum. Toxic-big, trust.
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Originally posted by Louie
Perfume will debut with 300k+ at the top of iChunes. In it's 2nd week it'll still be #1, like Circus, but in a bigger slayage scale. It will turn everything around. Album will debut with 600k in the US 900k WW, in the end 1.8 million in the US and 4.8 million WW.

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Originally posted by Louie
Release Perfume plz
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Originally posted by Louie
Perfume won't flop
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Originally posted by Louie
Release Perfume Britney just so MTM can fume.
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Originally posted by Louie
You want Perfume, too, boo? 
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Originally posted by Louie
People only pay attention to Britney's first 2 singles. The fact that she hasn't released a ballad as a first or 2nd single is very telling in itself that we cannot judge how a Britney ballad would do on the charts until it happens.
I think Perfume will slay
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Originally posted by Louie
When Perfume hits #1, I'll remember this conversation, page 1966. Easy to remember. And I will drag you to the pits of the base when it happens. So now let's drop the subject until Perfume is released, that's how we should keep it Mr. Telephone Man
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OMG.
And all of this in the last 3 pages.
Btw, don't predict anything, my dear friend Luai - As someone said recenty, you're the new BRITNEY LICIOUS of the base when it comes to predictions, so just stop. 
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+33 on pop! With AT40 we might be able to pass Taylor 2morro! And S&S is going recurrent Sunday. We could have a new peak of 13 next week on pop songs.
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she will promote like she did with Circus & FF's era
Britney performed Circus at GMA, but did not help her get another #1, like TTWE.
so you think her second single gonna be HUGE, LOL.
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Originally posted by Louie
Confession Time: I don't want her to release another uptempo because she already danced her arse off to Work Bitch (according to her anyway), now between her Vegas rehearsals and interviews, you think she has enough time (or effort) to learn another routine, given Britney's current motivation?

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She's been rehearsing for 4-5 hours...I'd imagine that would include for singles from the new album that will be performed at the residency...I'd wager a bet that some of those songs will be singles.
not seeing how it would be an issue.
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Originally posted by coddiecollins
she is already reherasing so it possible 
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Exactly...
the division begins bwahahahaha. JK 
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