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Discussion: Is Beyoncé a bigger cultural icon than Britney Spears???
Member Since: 8/19/2013
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I think we all know the tea to this question.
Beyonce is heralded as the ultimate modern-day empowering woman, a powerful business woman, diva, feminist, a loving mother and wonderful wife.
Britney is heralded as a princess of pop, with hits and albums on her back that other mainstream artists could only dream of.
Take and choose. Personally, I would choose Beyonce, even though Britney might have more of a reputation in some locations outside the US.
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Member Since: 3/27/2012
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Originally posted by Eternium
Didn't Beyoncé host a special on Britney? What does that make Britney if a "legend," who also opened for her on tour, hosted her special?  Didn't Beyoncé even perform at the end of Britney's MTV special award ceremony?
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To answer your questions:
Yes she did host a special.
That makes Britney in 2001 or whenever it was a bigger star than Beyonce. I'm sure Diana Ross served some people back in her day but that doesn't mean they are bigger legends than she is.
And no, Britney's tribute was the opening act to Beyonce's performance.
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Member Since: 8/25/2012
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Originally posted by DIVO DIVINE
I honestly think they're about even... for different reasons they're both the biggest of their time.
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I actually agree with this.
They are opposites.
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Member Since: 3/27/2012
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Originally posted by Ressti
I actually agree with this.
They are opposites.
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Me too. Its silly of a Bey stan to deny Britney's mark in the music industry. And it's silly for a Britney stan to deny Beyonce's mark in the industry. Both stan bases know very well that their marks are immensely different and based on different things.
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Member Since: 7/21/2010
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Originally posted by Ressti
Beyoncé already is in the history books
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****ing Qween. History Books!
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Member Since: 7/21/2010
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Originally posted by Ressti
100 Pop-Culture Things That Make You a Millennial
Beyoncé and Jay-Z are #1
TIME 100, Bey is listed as an Icon.
Beyoncé is a global brand according to CNN
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"She's gone beyond being a popular singer, even beyond being a pop-cultural icon ... Right now, she is the heir-apparent diva of the USA, the reigning national voice."
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by swissman
What makes Marilyn or Audrey so different than Beyonce? Beyonce has arguably had 10x more success and influence than either. She has a word in the dictionary, she has lasting impact. Your theory would suggest that in 50 years there is going to be a huge gap in music history, that people will say, "What was popular in the early 2000s?" and everyone will say, "No clue whatsoever." I think most of us can name more than a few big names from the 1950s. It's not as if that time was simply more memorable.
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Marilyn and Audrey managed to captivate the world at a time when there was no internet, no social-networking sites, and no advanced technology like we have today. They - along with many other stars of their generation - broke down barriers. They managed to stay relevant a a time when there wasn't tweets to detail their every move or gossip bloggers to post a new photo and article of them every day. That type of celebrity won't happen again. Everything is so fast-paced and instantaneous now that something that happened 5 minutes ago is basically yesterdays news. The celebrities nowadays benefit from being able to have immediate interactions with the GP and their fans and while that is of course a good thing, it is also a hindrance as it means they won't be able to transcend their celebrity image.
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Member Since: 1/6/2012
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Originally posted by Eternium
Didn't Beyoncé host a special on Britney? What does that make Britney if a "legend," who also opened for her on tour, hosted her special? Didn't Beyoncé even perform at the end of Britney's MTV special award ceremony?
Don't Britney threads usually end in new music? |
Michelle Obama, Bono from U2, Barbra Stresiand presented and praised Beyoncé before her BBMA performance. So by your logic, Beyoncé is above these people and she is a first lady of the first lady, lead singer of a legendary rock-band, a Grammy/Oscar/Emmy winner actress/vocalist.
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Member Since: 6/24/2012
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Originally posted by wolf
I think we all know the tea to this question.
Beyonce is heralded as the ultimate modern-day empowering woman, a powerful business woman, diva, feminist, a loving mother and wonderful wife.
Britney is heralded as a princess of pop, with hits and albums on her back that other mainstream artists could only dream of.
Take and choose. Personally, I would choose Beyonce, even though Britney might have more of a reputation in some locations outside the US.
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This would be the right answer to the OP. Both of them are cultural icons, one is currently bigger than the other one. But some people in the Hive should learn how to talk about Bey's impact without discrediting someone else's impact, in this case, Britney's. I think this thread was meant to start an Army vs. Hive all over again, which is a little bit exhausting. I don't know why mods haven't closed this yet.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by wolf
I think we all know the tea to this question.
Beyonce is heralded as the ultimate modern-day empowering woman, a powerful business woman, diva, feminist, a loving mother and wonderful wife.
Britney is heralded as a princess of pop, with hits and albums on her back that other mainstream artists could only dream of.
Take and choose. Personally, I would choose Beyonce, even though Britney might have more of a reputation in some locations outside the US.
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Yes, and Britney Spears is the ultimate virgin icon 
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Originally posted by swissman
To answer your questions:
Yes she did host a special.
That makes Britney in 2001 or whenever it was a bigger star than Beyonce. I'm sure Diana Ross served some people back in her day but that doesn't mean they are bigger legends than she is.
And no, Britney's tribute was the opening act to Beyonce's performance.
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Are you sure? Didn't Beyoncé go from never being mentioned in post-VMA articles to finally being noticed at the VMAs for the first time in her career? Why do you think that was?
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Member Since: 6/24/2012
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Originally posted by swissman
Me too. Its silly of a Bey stan to deny Britney's mark in the music industry. And it's silly for a Britney stan to deny Beyonce's mark in the industry. Both stan bases know very well that their marks are immensely different and based on different things.
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I could not agree more. 
You're my favorite member of the Hive, without a doubt.
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Member Since: 9/5/2011
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Originally posted by DIVO DIVINE
I honestly think they're about even... for different reasons they're both the biggest of their time.
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Where Britney kind of fell off, Beyonce took off. Beyonce's name(especially amongst the gays) are staples on tv, etc.
In a sense, I want to say they are about even and eventually they both will be regarded as legends down the road.
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No 
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Member Since: 9/5/2011
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Originally posted by abrahamjmr
I could not agree more.
You're my favorite member of the Hive, without a doubt. |
I like him too.
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Member Since: 7/21/2010
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Originally posted by swissman
To answer your questions:
Yes she did host a special.
That makes Britney in 2001 or whenever it was a bigger star than Beyonce. I'm sure Diana Ross served some people back in her day but that doesn't mean they are bigger legends than she is.
And no, Britney's tribute was the opening act to Beyonce's performance.
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Sis, why do you keep putting Diana Ross and Beyonce is the same sentence?
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Member Since: 3/27/2012
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Originally posted by Eternium
Are you sure? Didn't Beyoncé go from never being mentioned in post-VMA articles to finally being noticed at the VMAs for the first time in her career? Why do you think that was? |
lol.. come on now. Please try and see beyond your bias. Beyonce has never been not-mentioned at VMAs that she performed. She's continually on the best-of list for performances (which is no surprise). Her moment with Taylor Swift was ALL over the news. Her LOT performance was not only talked about because of Britney Spears if that is what you're insinuating considering that no one even remembers the Britney tribute.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Sunshine.
You're always speaking like your word is absolute. The point is, she's in history books NOW. Stop acting like you can see into the future.
A Contrary-Connie if I've ever seen one.  |
I can though, I'm clairvoyant  . I can see that Beyoncé won't release a new single until 2021
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You only sound pressed and your opinion doesn't contribute to the discussion.
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I've nothing to be 'pressed' about, I'm just giving my opinion and clearly it does contribute as numerous people have replied to me.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by QueenBeé
Michelle Obama, Bono from U2, Barbra Stresiand presented and praised Beyoncé before her BBMA performance. So by your logic, Beyoncé is above these people and she is a first lady of the first lady, lead singer of a legendary rock-band, a Grammy/Oscar/Emmy winner actress/vocalist.
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I didn't say bigger. But if you want to use these "legends'" words to solidify Beyoncé's status, why can't I use Beyoncé's words to solidify Britney's?
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Member Since: 8/25/2012
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Originally posted by swissman
Me too. Its silly of a Bey stan to deny Britney's mark in the music industry. And it's silly for a Britney stan to deny Beyonce's mark in the industry. Both stan bases know very well that their marks are immensely different and based on different things.
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True.
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Member Since: 6/7/2011
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Originally posted by Ressti
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Once upon a time, Jay-Z was a virtuoso rapper, and Beyoncé was one third of a nineties R&B girl group. We’ve heard the nostalgic yarns about Reasonable Doubt; we even remember a few Destiny's Child singles. But we think of Beyoncé and Jay-Z as a unit: our finest cultural ambassadors, the ultimate power couple, and the peak of modern celebrity. Together, they gave us “Crazy In Love” (the most important Song of Summer) and Blue Ivy (the most important child.) Together, they continue to teach us about happy marriages. (The millennial era will end the moment – God forbid – they ever split up.) It is impossible to be more important than Bey and Jay, unless you are their friend, the President of the United States, and even then you might get upstaged at an Inauguration. The nicknames aren’t coincidence: they’re called Hov and Queen Bey because they’re royalty. The American Dream. What more can we say?
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I mean...
Beyoncé and Britney are the two biggest cultural icons of our generation, in terms of female pop stars. But, they represent different things.
Britney represents the immediate rise and unfortunate downfall of an American sweetheart turned icon.
Beyoncé represents a yearning child who wanted something bigger in life, worked hard, and gained gradual success to be known as one of the most talented artists of our generation, the Queen B.
To answer the OP question, I say yes. Beyoncé has so much more to offer and give, while Britney has peaked and career legacy is cemented from 1999 - 2007.
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