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Originally posted by BrittRihanna134
I think it was weird for her to make that comment considering all her eras had 5 videos minimum in a quick singles fashion. But to answer the question singles are important to have as a singer. Other things like touring ability are great too but I know it must suck not to be able to get the GP to like your music.
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Yeah and she would employ the tactic of singles with videos and singles without but for radio play in an era.
Shady. Good one.
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Originally posted by BajanBeauty
The blatant lies, I heard it on Power 105.1 the other day.
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Heard it this weekend while getting gas at a gas station. Brought me back a little.
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Originally posted by Odessos
Theres a flaw in your logic,if a song is a hit,it usually makes people interested in the album therefore making them to check it out or even buy it in the end.If a artist has no problem selling singles he/she shouldnt be having problems @ selling albums.Everybody can name you MJs albums dont be delusional pick someone else next time
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Please redirect your mind out of the 80s and 90s. Albums are hard to sell and singles are much more of a reflection of the GP.
Everyone can't name all of MJs albums but can name more singles...same for most artists.
People will remember "black or white" and"remember the time" but not exactly know the album title.
I'm a fan so I know. It's just not that simple.
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Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction
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I can easily remember Madonna's biggest songs but since I don't follow her that closely, I barely know any of her album names. Does that diminish Madonna's legacy in any way? No. But the Hive will be the Hive. Good points. People can't name all of her albums in the 80s, and certainly the ones in the 90s but her songs were more memorable to the GP.
No, they can't. Music was and is very prevalent in my life but I do not know a single title of a MJ album aside from Thriller. I can name 5 of his singles but not all of his albums.
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Most people are likethat.
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Originally posted by BSNMology
So the average person will mention Ben, Music & Me, HIStory, Forever Michael....
No.
Maybe someone who cares about pop culture, but an average person, NO. Bad, Thriller... I get, because of the massive hits of the same name, but stop.
And no, a song being a hit does not necessarily draw interest in an album. It's the song + promo + interviews + performances, the latter 3 of which people generally don't care about or witness unless it is on a show they watch or awards, which is why album sales shoot up after awards shows, no matter how old they are.
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Yes. Go IN.
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Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction
Celine has bigger tour success than single success. Tina Turner has bigger tour success than single success. Cher has bigger tour success than single success. Beyonce has bigger tour success than single success.
Only when all relevance has faded away does touring turn into the cake.
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You are a shady mofo...classic shade
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Originally posted by Drais.
Some of you want Beyoncé to be "done" so bad. She's not going anywhere.
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I don't think people want her to be done. She has stood the test of time. I think some just want her to be great again and not rest on tactics of media propaganda to fool GP in thinking something is a hit when its underperforming. The hope is that she has better eras. Not for her to go away.
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Originally posted by Xalric
Funny cause half of the song y'all claim as Beyonce single are just song that she made a music video and put it in a DVD.
Not our fault if some don't shoot mv for their single when Bey shoot the song that her fanbase wants.
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While the others were singles with video and radio singles and singles used in ads all to flood the media with her music.
Flawless Rihanna shade but be careful some of those songs without videos have more impact that songs with videos.
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Originally posted by KangBey
Bey, Pink Taylor and Gaga are the only females under 35 in 2010s to gross over 100 million on tour, just 4 females out of all the females in the industry.
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I am so glad you have to add all these subcategories to make your point using a decade that is 3 years in...only a Beyonce fan.
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Originally posted by Grumpy Gills
Some ppl make quick singles, some ppl make albums and some ppl film music videos for a year 
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Originally posted by BajanBeauty
Wrong. Madonna surpassed those other girls because of the artist she is. She pushed boundaries and had a bigger impact than those you named.
- So my original point still stands touring is the icing on the cake. I get you clearly just wanted to engage in a debate but news flash months/ years after the tour is over the gross is irrelevant to the general public whereas a hit song will still be remembered and is what people identify an artist with.
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Valid.
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Originally posted by Odessos
She/he named the average person,atrl really thinks they are oblivious to everything happening in music especially related to the big names.
Not you naming the ones from the 70s,Off the wall,Thriller,Bad,Dangerous,History is debatable i will give you that one.
Yes it does,if its good theres a big chance people will buy it.How did adele manage to sell that much without doing all of those or is she excluded in such an argument.
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But his songs from the 70s are a part of his catalog...especially his solo ones
How can you not understand Adele is the exception to almost every rule in music right now? Where do we start?
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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2
Run the World (April 2011)
1+1 (May 2011)
Best Thing I Never Had (June 2011)
Party (August 2011)
Love on Top (September 2011)
Countdown (October 2011)
I Was Here (November 2011)
End of Time (March 2012)
I Was Here (August 2012)

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And that's just one era
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Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction
If anything, people on ATRL should be MORE informed on pop music than the average person. Album names are harder to remember than memorable singles. Just deal with it. It's fact.
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True.
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Originally posted by zach
I think what Beyonce meant was that when doing an album, an artist thinks about the hit singles first. They don't think about making a whole body of work. They work to try to get the songs that they think will be a hit, and put them together to make an album. This has happened for years and years, it's not recent.
I agree with this for Rihanna. Yes, she sells a good amount or albums and singles, but that's not the point. The point is her albums are basically put together with the thought of a "singles collection" and rarely have a cohesive and specific theme.
As much as I hate on Katy, I don't believe that she actually goes out of her way to do this. Yes, she does work with hit makers, but she writes all her material herself and is heavily involved in the whole process. All her albums have very specific themes and all the songs fit well together.
And I'm not saying this a bad thing. Don't come for me.
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Who is anyone to say what an album thinks about when doing their album though. I am not really a big fan of this idea about body of work nowadays because I can think of PLENTY of filler albums from the greatest artist of the 80s and 90s where the only things that were memorable were the singles and like 2 tracks. It's harder to get away with filler tracks now because of the digital era.
You could just have hit singles and people would buy your album not knowing if they would actually like the entire body of work. That won't change and I don't like the idea that people are trying to push it as a new concept either.
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Originally posted by Bayonsay
The fact that people reach for her quote being about Rihanna 
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Of course Beyonce stans will say that because at one point they would say Beyonce is above shading any artist because she is so far at the top. Now that Rihanna continues to be the urban pop queen that Beyonce mid 2000s now she's making statements about singles and also about how others have yet to accomplish what she has. Usually people just allow the GP to do the talking instead of needing to say that. She didn't say anything that hasn't been said but she just didn't need tosay it and especially with her past tactics.
Beyonce doesn't have the guts to name names but if anyone is referring to singles we can go from the Flo ridas, pit bulls, all the way up to the Katys, Rihannas for artists that have singles success now whether they have album success is another thing...some do and some don't but they are all included under the umbrella ella ella eh eh eh of putting out a lot of singles nowadays.
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Originally posted by RomanNavy
The excuses 
Beyonce releases more singles than Rih and Katy but nobody notices cuz they all flop. Whatever, from a quick lil singles queen to a quick lil snippet queen.  slay king b
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Originally posted by abc1990
3 of those flop singles are platinum and that flop album sold about the same as some girl that had hit singles...and us not forget that someone is one a tour for a 2 year old album that is going to outgross a tour that featuring music that was recently released
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Originally posted by BajanBeauty
And they are an exception.
- Be completely honest with yourself: Do you think in 5-10 years Beyonce will be remembered for the Mrs. Carter World tour or B'day?
NO however Bey's legacy will consist of Single Ladies and Crazy in Love.
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Irreplaceable and so far that's about it except B'day is my favorite album of hers despite DIL actually being quality.
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Originally posted by QueenBeé
Bey didn't even refer to ''releasing a lot of singles from an album'' or any pop girl.  She meant people don't record albums as a whole or with a concept that can be seen in all the songs in the album, which is true. Acts like LMFAO, Flo Rida, Pitbull are just recording random songs in which they see the hit potential. She didn't direct her words towards Rihanna or Katy, yall yourselves took her words for your faves, but if the shoe fits, wear it bitches.
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Well some would have a hard time believing B'day had a real concept so she was shading herself.
As said, she would never direct it but for anyone that has put out a lot of singles over a period of time would be included. Even Kesha. I doubt people expect her to be referring to Christina but people on both sides the artist that sell alot of singles and nothing else and those that can sell both. Either way hopefully she gets her singles and albums back to what it was back in her 1st and 3rd album era. Her 2nd era (my fave) was a bit messy.