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Discussion: Are Album PRE-ORDERS fair?
Member Since: 8/19/2013
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how is it unfair? the people that pre-order the album weeks in advance would've bought it 1st week if it wasn't available for pre-order anyway
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by gagakyle
You don't get it. But you tried. Counts for something.
Preorders don't really maximize first week sales. People pre-ordering it know they get it the first week. As someone else said, it's convenience. Essentially, they are buying the album the first week.
Sorry that it's difficult to grasp for some. And using the same gif over and over doesn't make your point any more intelligent.
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 Ok girl. I know you know exactly what I'm talking about but you are hard pressed and determined not to agree since what I'm saying may apply to certain pop girls more than others.
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Member Since: 8/19/2011
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Originally posted by NickLacheyFan
Actually, just the fact something is released to iTunes helps sales since it's getting exposure and any kind of exposure is basicly free promo which helps sales.
Esp' if that pre-order got strong demand and hits Top 10 on overall or a certain section which right away makes people who get into the section notice it, people who normally might not search it. And that's without talking about banners which are added to iTunes mostly when something by a big artists is released for pre-orders.
And, since you asked so nicely, when people hear a song on the radio they usually search it on iTunes, when you got the album out there for pre-orders and a song on the radio, lots of people searching the song might end up pre-ordering the album since it's already out there on iTunes, people which might have taken their time to buy it.
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You do bring up good reasons why someone might pre-order an album, but let's not forget that their is a deterrent to just hearing a song and going to get the album: MONEY. If people want the album, they'll buy it. When you pre-order it, you know you're getting it the first week.
If they offered something special with the album, like a bonus song or something that you can only get by preorder, we could argue that the preorder increases demand for an album.
I would be amused to hear someone argue the fact that a preorder for any album will give it higher sales than it otherwise would've had.
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Member Since: 6/10/2009
Posts: 10,622
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Pre Orders have been around for as long as I can remember. Even before iTunes you could preorder albums at CD/Record Shops like Virgin Megastore, The Wall, Tower, Sam Goody & more. Back then you held on to your receipt to pick up your album and today is NO DIFFERENT.
Its fair and always has been fair practice.
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Member Since: 8/19/2011
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Originally posted by Fenty The Great
Ok girl. I know you know exactly what I'm talking about but you are hard pressed and determined not to agree since what I'm saying may apply to certain pop girls more than others.
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I studied economics in school, so this stuff is interesting to me. I could care less what Lady Gaga does with her preorders. To be honest, they probably did it to maximize sales like you said, but I don't think it's a good or effective strategy to boost sales, first week or otherwise. Albums are too expensive for something like this to actually work IMO.
So I'm disagreeing with Gaga's sales strategy and your post at the same time 
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Member Since: 8/30/2011
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How isn't it fair? If someone pre-orders an album months in advance without having heard anything from it, then sure as hell he was going to buy it the first week either way. Most big releases are put for digital pre-order, so I don't see how this could be unfair to anyone.
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Member Since: 6/25/2008
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Originally posted by gagakyle
You do bring up good reasons why someone might pre-order an album, but let's not forget that their is a deterrent to just hearing a song and going to get the album: MONEY. If people want the album, they'll buy it. When you pre-order it, you know you're getting it the first week.
If they offered something special with the album, like a bonus song or something that you can only get by preorder, we could argue that the preorder increases demand for an album.
I would be amused to hear someone argue the fact that a preorder for any album will give it higher sales than it otherwise would've had.
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Actually [pt II, lol], some albums are released to pre-orders with a special bonus track or getting a new single track.
As for getting an album a higher sales week when it's released?
Basiclly it does. You are all coming for this matter in a stans point of view when you forget that the other half of people who pre-order are the lazy type of people.
So yeah, we are not talking about massive numbers of people but it does help an album gain more sales that might have been added in the long run and might not but pre-orders def' help an album first week sales, not hurt it.
But I think we're missing the point of the OP, which is probably more related to something like "should there be a limit of time on when an album is released for pre-orders".
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by gagakyle
I studied economics in school, so this stuff is interesting to me. I could care less what Lady Gaga does with her preorders. To be honest, they probably did it to maximize sales like you said, but I don't think it's a good or effective strategy to boost sales, first week or otherwise. Albums are too expensive for something like this to actually work IMO.
So I'm disagreeing with Gaga's sales strategy and your post at the same time |
I also studied econ. The only thing I was suggesting is that pre-orders make first week numbers look bigger, not necessarily a sales boost as you so eloquently pointed out
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Yes its fair, everybody have the right to buy or pre order what they want, u cant control anybody money, remain pressed
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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It's totally fair, I pre-order the things I wanna get the SECOND they come out, and not many people actually pre-order stuff, so it's not like it helps that much. Discounted pre-orders DO help, though.
I love pre-orders tbh, I pre-ordered Lana's Born to Die and canceled it like 5 times because I wasn't sure I'd like it, I was able to do it because I'm not really buying it yet, so yay to pre-orders 
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Member Since: 4/12/2008
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Yes.
Singles pre-orders are not tho.
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Member Since: 1/27/2006
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Member Since: 2/24/2012
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idk i think its stupid how gagas and perrys album are up for pre-order tho with no tracklisting or album cover, just thirsty
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Yes. It's the smarter decision to put an album up for pre-order in the first place.
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Member Since: 1/2/2012
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Yes. The people pre-ordering would've bought the album anyway.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
Posts: 61,634
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Originally posted by NickLacheyFan
Actually, just the fact something is released to iTunes helps sales since it's getting exposure and any kind of exposure is basicly free promo which helps sales.
Esp' if that pre-order got strong demand and hits Top 10 on overall or a certain section which right away makes people who get into the section notice it, people who normally might not search it. And that's without talking about banners which are added to iTunes mostly when something by a big artists is released for pre-orders.
And, since you asked so nicely, when people hear a song on the radio they usually search it on iTunes, when you got the album out there for pre-orders and a song on the radio, lots of people searching the song might end up pre-ordering the album since it's already out there on iTunes, people which might have taken their time to buy it.
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Who pre-orders a whole album because they like one song that they heard on the radio.
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Member Since: 12/29/2011
Posts: 8,072
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if people want to buy it it shouldn't matter when they buy it. I mean, if Rihanna didn't put Unapologetic on pre-order, would it have gone #1?
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
Posts: 6,922
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Only on ATRL would someone question if Pre-Orders are fair or not,
and no, in what realm would pre-orders be unfair.
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