Articles like this annoy me so much. It's not even that somebody doesn't like Taylor - it's that they write utter ******** that's filled with wrong information and baseless claims.

For example:

Did this writer even bother to check what Taylor's most popular/most successful songs actually are? Because 22 built no careers. Completely ignores her country background in order make this incorrect point.

How is EHC more mature than the songs she put out on her first album? It's not, but it's an inoffensive ballad, so we'll pretend it is. Because we all know slow and boring = mature. (I'm not an EHC hater, but it is both these things).

And how is that a line a 13-year-old would say? Oh, right, it's an untempo pop song, so that makes it immature. "A new notch on your belt is all I'll ever be" is clearly a lyric designed for 13-year-olds to relate to.

Madonna's fans were children. Take it from somebody who's old and was actually alive in the 80's. My friends and I stanned the most for Madonna between the ages of 5 and 11. And she was much older than Taylor during her Papa Don't Preach/True Blue days. Plenty of music journos at the time dismissed her and gave her no respect. It's only once her fans grew up and became the writers that the story got told differently. Same thing with the Beatles (I wasn't alive then, but I know their fans were mostly tweens for the first few years.)

The one thing that makes me able to bear crap like this is that I know in ten-to-fifteen years, the generation of girls who grew up with Taylor will be the ones writing these articles and they will praise her in the way she deserves.

I hate how each fanbase hates the "sell-out" song from their fave.

It happened with my two favortie artists ever.

Nicki with Starships and Taylor with WANEGBT.

Please REALIZE if you want your fave to continue doing what they're doing, they MUST experiment, they must try new sounds and get out of their comfort-zone to KEEP doing what you love and keep everything fresh.

WANEGBT, like it or not, made Taylor an INTERNATIONAL act. She's getting global. The same happened with Nicki and Starships, the success gave her American Idol (the BIGGEST show in America) and AI gave her a role in an upcoming movie with one of the most respectful stars in the world.

That's just an example, I love Taylor so much and I stand by everything she does, she's an ARTIST. Let her do her ART.

I just had to get it off of my chest.

Yaas @ the new members spilling that SCALDING tea.

Some of these veteran members need a dragging once in a while.

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Seriously slaying

Spill that truth tea Starships

So much red tea spilled by Red Guard.

And let it out Starships. That's why we're here on ATRL after all

Not really. Those three tracks were just against Her "serious artist" image. Believe it or not, people view Her as one. And She's expected to act like a deep, insightful, artist. People take Her seriously, unlike pop-tarts like Joanne or Katheryn. The GP will always be severely lacking in wit department. She knew, we knew, they knew.

Thanks to thousands of think-pieces tho, now a good portion of the GP sees Her as this misunderstood artsy weirdo girl/scone.

Very unfortunate that even tho She is viewed as a 'serious artist,' majority of ppl will always feel the contradictions because Her sugar rush tunes will always be Her most popular, instead of Her better materials.

I didn't read the last sentence.

I'm glad I have to a place to rant when I read one of these annoying anti-Taylor articles now. That Atlantic Wire piece with the girl who runs Feminist Swift...I raged inside for days with no outlet then.

It's just the production with those MM tracks. Not enough Taylor in them. And what's up with those underdeveloped choruses?

Giving Her a sound that is out of Her range and a sound that is too similar to everybody else. They are maybe technically perfect and ****, but it's too perfect that they become bland. At times, they are way too calculated. MM engineered those tracks for one purpose, to smash. Despite whatever She has to say at those tracks, MM overshadowed Her on them. The calculations come across as disingenuous for a 'serious artist', even tho it's actually still a form of 'experimenting.' People expected Her to start go weird after "S&S" and its Bluegrass/Americana sound. Basically it's far too off the field for some.

That EHC track, I despise that. But I get why ppl think of it as 'different & mature', because even tho it's such a dull track, it's a bit different from the garbage by Dr. Luke that's infecting the market.

I enjoy those MM tracks for what they are, made for radio sugar rush tunes.

I need a kunty Taylor avi.
I'm here to drag the Scarrie Underacheievers in the name of The Lord.

Sometimes Taylor is the serious songwriting artist sometimes she isn't, it's how she is.
She is a PERSON, a creative mind so obviously she won't always be in the same state.
As the day changes so will the kind of music she creates.
She's not some label puppet that creates the same song 10 times then releases some unapologetic synopsis about a coquettish facade of a life.
She is a woman.

at that article

I didn t know those Sara Tegan girls before the Staples Center show

Now I m addicted to Closer, same happened to me with Drops of Jupiter, Taylor ha impact

She IS misunderstood by the majority. What I get from that Atlantic Wire piece was him 'coming out' as a stan and trying to accept it. Of course, first stage is denial.

That feministtswift thing is pure garbage. I find the current "you are woman, therefore you HAVE to be a feminist" thing to be VERY irritating tbh. Let people come to it by themselves instead of pushing them like that.

And what if people do support it but they just don't enjoy being labeled by any kind of *****?

What's wrong with being an individualist? What matter most is standing for the rights. **** labels.

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@boodytay I think Middle of Selena is also a hybrid Taylor stan from India

There has always been a backlash against that, though. Remember the furor when she won AOTY. Many people were pressed then, seeing her as only the blonde girl who sang about Romeo & Juliet. I think the haters thought they'd be proved right and Taylor would be a flash in the pan. They're mad as hell now that she's four albums into her career and still slaying. Sometimes I'm torn between wanting to see Taylor release All Too Well or State of Grace and silence her doubters once and for all, and wanting her to win more Grammys while only putting out tracks like WANEGBT and 22, because of how riled up and pressed some people will get about it.

I only think that about 22. I think WANEGBT and IKYWT have a lot of Taylor in them. WANEGBT has Taylor's snarky side and IKYWT has her trademark storytelling lyrics. If MM had made IKYWT for Britney, it'd have about a quarter of the word count.

I am also from the United States

We can explain it to GP how stupid their view of a person or why they should listen to the full album until our face turn blue, they will keep doing that. It's just what it is.

So let's not get mad at ppl for calling Her a sell out. We live in singles era. For many, the rest on the album are mostly just **** version of the singles. You can thank Katheryn for that. Ppl stopped listening to albums long time ago.