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Member Since: 4/29/2012
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Ok i'm horny now......
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Member Since: 8/20/2011
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Originally posted by Disco
I hate to kiss anyone's ass, and you all may not like it, but Nicole is usually ALWAYS right.
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oh shut up already. you're just as annoying as X/O/X/O
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Member Since: 5/27/2010
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Originally posted by Space Renegade
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It didn't.
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ATRL Senior Member
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Originally posted by Space Renegade
how did it do world wide? |
Don't try that angle, he'll just dodge the question spouting off iTunes stats even though "Applause" will debut with higher sales than DY.
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Member Since: 11/17/2011
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Originally posted by Disco
I remember her argument with him on twitter and she made herself sound like she was an EDM producer/DJ...which is hilarious after hearing Applause. Does she have an ear for good thumping Electronic music? We have yet to find out, but the future is not looking bright.
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Gaga about electronic music:
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“Well, I think we both know that acoustic music (that was about Adele) isn’t better than electronic music. Electronic music requires a tremendous amount of technical expertise—really knowing the mathematics and beauty of music. At the risk of sounding like a snob, if you don’t really understand how to make electronic music, it might be much easier for you to write it off as low-brow.”
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That sounds so funny after awfulause.
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Member Since: 6/15/2012
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Originally posted by Jennifer
S&S is not the last big dance hit. "Wake Me Up" is HUGE WW right now, lol.
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Do you consider it as dance oriented at S&S? It sounds kinda folky and not so dance-ish as the rest of Avicii's singles. 
Anyways, I forgot about that song when I wrote my post. 
Well, S&S is definitely one of the biggest dance hits in the last year or so. 
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Member Since: 6/17/2012
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We should be asking MaRy tbh about the future of Gaga.
Irrelevancy or Smash 
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
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Originally posted by Jennifer
S&S is not the last big dance hit. "Wake Me Up" is HUGE WW right now, lol.
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The country/folk influence is so strong on the track. Aloe Blacc should record a version w/o the EDM and send it to AC and Country formats. Watch it becomes HUGE.
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Member Since: 8/20/2011
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Originally posted by MrPeanut
It didn't.
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poor ha 
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Member Since: 8/12/2012
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Moin Moin
from Billboard magazine
Ross On Radio: Why Lana Del Rey Was Born To Live
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For many years, the ultimate music business pejorative was to declare any artist “a hype.” The combination of a major-label push, modest results and critical disdain was worse for many artists than being a nonentity. Most are long forgotten relics of another era that you haven’t heard of—and that’s the point—although Boomkat, whose “The Wreckoning” blew up at top 40, then blew out in the course of a month or so a decade ago, comes to mind.
Between the attention that preceded her “Saturday Night Live” appearance in January 2012 and the backlash that followed, Lana Del Rey was almost definingly a hype. And yet, her album Born to Die entered the Billboard 200 at No. 2, has now sold 705,000 copies (according to Nielsen SoundScan) and been certified gold. She followed the single “Video Games” with three other songs that were also hits everywhere else in the world, including “Summertime Sadness.” At press time, the Cedric Gervais remix of the later track is top 40’s second-fastest-growing song, cracking the top 20 at mainstream top 40 with a gain of more than 1,600 spins.
I was always rankled by the “gangsta Nancy Sinatra” label that was tagged to Del Rey. Any musical connection between the two hinged on one Sinatra song ("Some Velvet Morning") and, besides, if being gangsta is a good thing, then Sinatra is far more of a badass. But I felt sorry for Del Rey during the piling on that followed “SNL,” so I’m glad that the gangsta has beaten the rap.
For starters, the current success of “Summertime Sadness” happily confirms the limited power of the music blogosphere. The “SNL” appearance wasn’t an Ashlee Simpson-type embarrassment for most people; it was a nonevent. In the days that followed, I spoke to label people who were glad that Del Rey wasn’t their artist, but also to people who saw the appearance as being in keeping with the languid spirit of the music. It would have been like expecting Josh Groban to give the same TV appearance as Bruno Mars.
Some other reasons Del Rey turned out to be born to live:
There’s an audience for the atmospheric: In Europe, the ethereal pop of “Born to Die” had always been part of the hit music landscape. In America, it resurfaces at odd intervals, from 10cc’s “I’m Not in Love” to Enigma to Everything But the Girl’s “Missing” to Norah Jones to Coldplay, but audiences are always happy for a good after-dinner record when it comes along. And those are often the records that can go gold without a radio hit or sell albums as album sales decline.
An artist who sold without radio made a record for radio: By the time it reached the air waves here, “Summertime Sadness” was already a proven radio hit. Sia had already shown that an ethereal pop artist could adjust slightly and become a radio hitmaker. And in the summer of Zedd, the combination of credible dance track and quality lyric is a potent one. And arguably, the path for “Summertime Sadness” was already created by Everything’s “Missing,” down to a similarly themed lyric.
In dance, nobody can hear your cred: If Del Rey’s stature at radio had been really damaged, instead of a nonentity, “Summertime Sadness” could have come out as “Cedric Gervais featuring Lana Del Rey” and all would have been forgiven. So far, the rules of artist image seem to have been waived for those who provide hooks for a hot rapper or DJ. Look for the new track from “Deadmau5 vs. Celine Dion & the DeFranco Family” to drop soon.
Labels don’t let go of major investments easily: Del Rey’s initial buzz ignited interest from multiple labels at the outset, and she likely wasn’t a cheap signing. I can’t speak for Interscope, which has long been better than most labels at knowing when to cut bait on a project, but throwing away a major signing is a big decision, and Del Rey had too much of a worldwide story to consider that option. And it's been an exceptionally good summer for Interscope overall, with this week's top four songs.
The “summer” trick worked: Using the word itself in a song isn’t enough to get you a hit anymore, now that everybody else has tried the same thing. But even a downbeat lyric about summer combined with an artist that radio was aware of, and an uptempo song that fit with what it was already playing, turned out to be a potent combination.
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Member Since: 10/10/2009
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Originally posted by Disco
I remember her argument with him on twitter and she made herself sound like she was an EDM producer/DJ...which is hilarious after hearing Applause. Does she have an ear for good thumping Electronic music? We have yet to find out, but the future is not looking bright.
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I'm starting to wonder the same. I'm thinking her definition of EDM is likely very, very different from most others. Add to that the god-awful perspective of DJWS and you've got a disaster.
Hopefully Zedd will save the album though. His production on Aura shi*ts pretty hard, especially for a demo.
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Member Since: 8/4/2010
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Originally posted by MrPeanut
Oo they bettah stan.
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"Yep, it sounds like Lady Gaga has been listening to her Madonna collection again. And I'm not talking about 'classic' Madonna either, it's Madge's number 73 errrm, smash, 'Girl Gone Wild' from 2012".
....and stan they do. 
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Member Since: 5/15/2009
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Originally posted by Space Renegade
oh shut up already. you're just as annoying as X/O/X/O
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Are you upset? I understand.
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Member Since: 5/25/2010
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Originally posted by Space Renegade
how did it do world wide? |
Why is everyone so concerned about being
'worldwide' when US Success > Global Success.
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Originally posted by Nicole
@Vin, Diane Lane is great but she's only been given a couple of opportunities to shine.
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Diane Lane will be playing Hillary Rodham Clinton in the film "Hillary." So, maybe it's time
for a comeback, critically. Sidenote: Notice how Diane Lane is playing Hillary only
after Julianne Moore was critically successful in playing Sarah Palin.
...Vin
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Member Since: 8/20/2011
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Originally posted by Vin
Why is everyone so concerned about being
'worldwide' when US Success > Global Success.
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Member Since: 10/10/2009
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Originally posted by Ozzy8923
OMG Gaga should of done something like Call My Name.
Flawless, catchy, easy to sing live and dance to at the same time, and well-produced.
Cheryl her power.
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Only in dreams. Everyone knows Gaga HATES working with people who are professionals at what they do.
Need a videographer? Hire a Photographer. *insert derpga icon*
Want an EDM smash? Hire your "brother" DJWS, a terrible hip-hop producer *insert same icon*
I still have faith though 
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 3/22/2012
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Originally posted by ClashAndBurn
She really is. Don't know why people try to deny it.
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Because nobody can ever be right all the time, and Nicole has been wrong before. She's a very smart girl and has a good eye for what will do well, but nobody here is infallible and it's silly to elevate someone to that level. Not one of us is guaranteed to always be right. I could say "Applause" will do moderately well and it could sell 200k and then turn into the next NMT; the same goes for anyone.
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Member Since: 8/4/2010
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Getting compared to Girl Gone Wild (not a Madonna classic) is not a good comparison, in my opinion. 
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ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 8/8/2006
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You know what is the problem with Applause: the chorus sounds too much like MTN (The style not the hook)
I feel this is how MTN would have performed if released as first single off BTW
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Member Since: 4/29/2012
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Oh wow Kathy is #1 thats really amazing how can she surpass the greatest artist of this gen, the most original who released an acclaimed song thats is risky and artistic.
thats crazy.....
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