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Nippy'sReceipts

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Originally posted by TikiMiss

@Nippy, all of your points make sense, but on the last point, all kids fear being smart in general, because all kids are bullied for being "geeks"

at least I know I was in elementary school

when I said I preferred books to basketball

Yeah, but the dynamics are different in the ghetto. Being called Oreo or trying to be white for liking to read can shame a kid differently than the occasional geek taunts.

TikiMiss

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Originally posted by Nippy'sReceipts

Yeah, but the dynamics are different in the ghetto. Being called Oreo or trying to be white for liking to read can shame a kid differently than the occasional geek taunts.

Hmm, I guess I can't really say much about that because I never experienced it

but I guess so. I can't really imagine what that would be like.

DuckaDucka12

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Originally posted by TikiMiss

I don't know? Maybe because many black children grow up in fatherless families? Maybe because maybe black mothers are under the age of 20, and leave their children with their grandmothers? Maybe because MIDDLE SCHOOL drop out rates in 90+% black urban neighborhoods is as high as 60% or 70%? Maybe because they predominantly choose blue collar jobs which are easily displaceable (factory work, service jobs, etc), and when the economy bottoms out, they are the first to lose their jobs? Maybe after all of this is said and done, and they have earned the least money, so they can only afford the poor neighborhoods, their collective tax dollars are then not enough to hire the best teachers and provide the best educations for their children?

And then the cycle rinses, washes, and repeats.

It's people like you that make me weep for humanity, ****ing racist

GreasyBruce

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Originally posted by Sunshine.

But those things are PROMINENT aspects of the African American identity--just think rap culture, whereas they only exist in minor factions in other races. Like I said, at 13% of the population, what any one of us do weighs heavier than what individuals in the majority do.

Sure we're not all the same, but a white/asian person can't meet every black person. By what's portrayed in the media, perpetuated in rap culture, and exacerbated by crime statistics, it's not fair to blame other races for how they perceive us. We're in control of our image, and until we change that we'll continue to be classified as less-than by the majority.

Instead of this ******** you just wrote you should be telling people not to judge an entire racial group based on the media.

That's the root of the problem

Save-Me-Oprah

This thread... what a damn mess.

Sunshine.

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Originally posted by GreasyBruce

~~Instead of this ******** you just wrote you should be~~ telling people not to judge ~~an entire racial group~~ based on the media.

That's the root of the problem

Good luck with that.

Artemisia

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Originally posted by BLaCKPoWeR

If you think how young Black males dress is at the root of the problem, you are stUpID and deserve to be dragged.

Pretty much. Nothing but a big ****ing excuse.

RastaMentality

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Originally posted by Sunshine.

Umm. I don't know what context he brought it up in as there is an appropriate time and place for everything, but removed from the Trayvon Martin case, his sentiments about the need for young black males to stop dressing like thugs, dropping the "N" word, committing crimes, etc are right.

At 13% of the population, anything one of us does is magnified and reflects greatly on our community.

But the obvious point is that none of that **** is gonna fix anything. Do you think black people have been putting rap artists in the the top 10 of billboard since the 90s? No.

RastaMentality

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Originally posted by memi stan

This! it's the same for any race. If you dress nicely and work hard you will go far. If you don't you won't be taken seriously. It may be sad but how you present yourself does matter.

??? @ this

RastaMentality

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Originally posted by Sunshine.

"We" as in individuals within the black community. True. You shouldn't be held responsible for how someone else acts, but that's the human condition. Psychologically, we tend to categorize and label like things for our convenience. It's a subconscious thing that translates into our everyday lives. Just think of why car insurance costs more for teenagers. Apparently, we're all a reckless bunch.

And girl, we've been seen as a reckless bunch since we came here for slavery. There's obviously not much hope for them to see us differently.

BobBertran1992

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Originally posted by memi stan

This! it's the same for any race. If you dress nicely and work hard you will go far. If you don't you won't be taken seriously. It may be sad but how you present yourself does matter.

Unfortunately this is true

RastaMentality

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Originally posted by BobBertran1992

Unfortunately this is true

No it's not. There's people working full time jobs working harder than any of the extremely rich have yet they're still damn near poverty. I hate that classist bull mindset.

BobBertran1992

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Originally posted by RastaMentality

No it's not. There's people working full time jobs working harder than any of the extremely rich have yet they're still damn near poverty. I hate that classist bull mindset.

I'm totally up against first impressions but unfortunately that's all that matters nowadays...

Demiboyx

Nippy's post nailed it on the head because I am lucky to be black and upper-middle class, I hated being stereotyped as a typical black kid in school as in liking chicken and watermelon because they saw it in TV.

First off, watermelon is vile and chicken is bland, I eat a variety of things like salmon, turkey, lobster and even dine at good restaurants when my mum can't be bothered to cook. I've lived a good life so far, we only fly first class, travel a lot, live in a nice house etc

So I'm absolutely livid when someone can't be bothered to appreciate me because of my skin colour and throw all my dads work under the bus and call him a drug dealer because I'm black. But I always get the last laugh because I'm better than most people.

Fireman25

I understand what Don is saying, but Bill O 'Reilly was coming from a racist stand point because how can you just target and say one particular thing is the reason for the black community being so messed up? The same thing he was saying can be implied to just about any community. Blacks are not the only ones with messed up neighborhoods. You have people in suburbia where kids getting kidnapped, people getting raped, dead bodies found underneath the homes. Just recently in Ohio three dead female bodies were found. This happens on every damn community, so I don't appreciate Bill O' Reilly just singling out the black community.