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Originally posted by BLaCKPoWeR
The bolded part. But you see, the only people yelling White pride are those who DO want to put down non-Whites and justify claims of White superiority.
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That generalization simply isn't true. It may often be, but it isn't a universal truth.
Again, you have to understand how variable people's lives are and how much they may differ form those of the people you've met. You're oversimplifying things.
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Originally posted by BLaCKPoWeR
To be honest, I would not endorse a 'men's pride' movement and I don't think bonding with your boys is the same thing.
American pride is reactionary. The U.S. is proud that it freed itself from an oppressive government centuries ago and went on to be the most powerful nation in the world. That is what we celebrate on Independence Day. Similarly, Black people should be proud that they have (for the most part) escaped slavery and have (somewhat) moved up in society. Britain should not be parading its inability to grant its own citizens rights centuries ago. However, Britain is just one nation. The entire White race doesn't need "White Pride" because for most of recent history, the race has just inhibited all other races. That's nothing to be proud of. Don't get me wrong - of course Whites have contributed positive things to society and the world just like everyone else. So instead, just be specific and go with Italian pride/German pride/French pride/etc.
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There can be pride without pride
movements. Men don't need a pride movement, but there's still nothing wrong with pride rooted in being a man on an individual level.
Regarding your note about Italian/Irish/etc pride being the stand in for race-based self identity you deem acceptable -- many white people have such diverse family trees that they don't identify with any certain European nation. They may not even identify with Europe as a whole anymore. Experiences are complex.