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Poll: Do you think its harder to be a girl?
Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by SupremeGoddess
And not to mention the fact that when a woman gets raped, it's her fault because "she dressed to sexy"
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But if a man gets raped by a woman and reports it he won't get anywhere because according to the law only men can rape
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Member Since: 8/15/2012
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Originally posted by Samuel
But if a man gets raped by a woman and reports it he won't get anywhere because according to the law only men can rape
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As if a woman can outforce a man into having sex with her.
As if the regular guy would refuse.
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Member Since: 12/25/2011
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But that wasn't my point. The point was that if a woman gets raped she'll get the blame.
If a man does get raped, by a woman or another man, he (the victim) does not get the blame.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by Mastamaind
As if a woman can outforce a man into having sex with her.
As if the regular guy would refuse.
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Of course they can
It's not always physical force, you can mentally 'force' someone to do something too, or take advantage while someone's intoxicated or something. And men aren't physically stronger than women in all cases anyway.
And it's not really good to generalise like that
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
Posts: 21,846
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Originally posted by SupremeGoddess
But that wasn't my point. The point was that if a woman gets raped she'll get the blame.
If a man does get raped, by a woman or another man, he (the victim) does not get the blame.
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Oh I wasn't trying to disprove your point, I agree with you, I was just pointing out a social issue that men face while we're on the topic of rape.
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Member Since: 5/10/2012
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Thank **** that men can't get periods or get pregnant.
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Member Since: 8/15/2012
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Originally posted by Samuel
Of course they can
It's not always physical force, you can mentally 'force' someone to do something too, or take advantage while someone's intoxicated or something. And men aren't physically stronger than women in all cases anyway.
And it's not really good to generalise like that
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I'm generalizing as you said so of course there are exceptions.
But tell me with a straight face that a regular guy would refuse sex.
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Member Since: 5/20/2012
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Yes. A lot of things have already been stated in this thread so I won't dwell into it. It is harder and I experience it every single day, with cat calls, rape jokes, common beliefs about woman's place that are so common we don't have enough power to fight them. And I'm a white woman, it's 100000x worse for women of colour.
There's one thing that went unexplained - the freedom of choosing clothing. This is all because of the belief that women are inferior, that guys can't wear "feminine" clothes. To the society it's like they embrace their feminine side, which is believed to be foul, therefore the society ridicules them. And it's not like I can wear anything I want, if I wear skimpy outfit I am instantly called a **** on the street. I wore a perfectly covering, fully equipped kimono two days ago and I had to call the police because I was followed for about 30 minutes by a pervert who kept on making inappropriate and disgusting comments comments. When they came they told me that there is a rapist on the loose in the area, by the way. Men will be ridiculed, women will get molested or raped. And all because of some weird stigma on human body.
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Member Since: 4/29/2012
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Originally posted by Big Smoke
Men have their share of problems as well.
Prostate Cancer
Child Support
Sexism (yes, sexism is a two way street)
Men are just as concerned about apparance as women
So- called Chivalry (Men are expected to be practially doormats for women, I thought it was about equality?)
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Men aren't under the same pressure as women when it comes to appearence though.
But yeah I'm not saying we have it easy but I feel like women have it harder.
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Originally posted by Mastamaind
I'm generalizing as you said so of course there are exceptions.
But tell me with a straight face that a regular guy would refuse sex.
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She could rape him anally or orally with her fist or an object though
It doesn't have to be your usual one on one missionary stuff.
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Member Since: 5/4/2012
Posts: 12,811
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Originally posted by Mastamaind
As if a woman can outforce a man into having sex with her.
As if the regular guy would refuse.
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Rape isnt about sex. Its about power.
a woman forcing her fist up a guys ass is still rape. Taking a Turkey Baster to a used condom after sex is irape
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A hairdresser from Meshchovsk, a small town in Russia, subdued a would be robber at her salon, then tied him up in the back room and raped him for three days.
At the end of the day on March 14, Olga was dealing with the last of her customers for the weekend when a man forced his way into the salon and demanded money. Other customers and employees at the establishment complied with his demands, but unbenounced to the robber, Olga just happened to be a yellow belt in karate. She overcame the robber and dragged him into the back room, then told everyone she would hold him until the police arrived.
But Olga didn’t call the police, in fact, after everyone had left, she went to the back room and demanded that the robber remove his clothing and underwear, telling him if he didn’t do so she would hand him over to the police. He obeyed and, bound with a pair of pink furry handcuffs, spent the next 3 days at the mercy of Olga’s perverse imagination.
Monday morning before the hair salon reopened for business, the robber was freed and went directly to the hospital for treatment of injuries to his genitals. After leaving the hospital, he went to the police.
Olga was hostile when arrested later that day, saying:
“What a bastard. Yes, we had sex a couple of times. But I’ve bought him new jeans, gave him food and even gave him 1.000 roubles (around $ 30) when he left.”
Both Olga and the robber Viktor have been charged and are awaiting sentencing.
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Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/22016/russi...iyYrDk8SC4V.99
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Now, the fact dude was a burglar and probably deserved it aside, It is possible.
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Member Since: 11/28/2011
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Originally posted by CoolestPerson12
These privileges you guys speak of, and that women can express themselves more freely are there because of machismo and plain sexism.
It's the belief that women can't fend for themselves (damsile in distress), and that women aren't as strong as guys emotionally, and since they are weak it's acceptable for them to express emotion. You can't hit a girl because again women are seen as the inferior sex and it would be wrong to hit someone lower than you. I'm not exgerating but that's why these things are there.
And girls express themselves more because society tells them too.
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How so? This whole statement and a conclusion sounds like a reach. Explain further please
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Member Since: 12/25/2011
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Originally posted by Javan
How so? This whole statement and a conclusion sounds like a reach. Explain further please
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It makes complete sense if you think about it.
Why is it wrong for men to hit women? Is it because we're physically weaker? There hundreds of women who are physically stronger than the average men, for example. Yet if a man hits a stronger women, it's still wrong.
It's wrong for men to hit women because women are seen below men. Even in todays society.
I'm not saying men should be able to hit women. in fact, it should be wrong for people to hit each other, whether it's a man hitting a man, a man hitting a woman, or vice versa.
Today's society still puts women below men. Look at Saudi Arabia, and even in "better" countries, like the US for example, the women is still the underdog. Trophy Wife, women who have low wages or don't have the same rights in their work place as men, or abortion being the most recent problem.
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Member Since: 5/27/2010
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Originally posted by Javan
How so? This whole statement and a conclusion sounds like a reach. Explain further please
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Historically women have been expected to be more emotional and "volatile" in comparison to men who are supposed to maintain composure. I mean, the whole idea of "hysteria" comes from the Greek word for uterus ("hystera") and was seen as a legitimate psychiatric condition suffered solely by women. For a man to have open displays of emotion and vulnerability is to demonstrate a "negative" feminine trait that betrays weakness and is therefore seen as shameful.
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Member Since: 9/2/2012
Posts: 7,210
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All I have to say is.
If you're a girl and keep your mouth shut you'll get everything you want. I'm so serious I've been there and seen that.
If you want to work and get what you want by working hard. Good ****ing luck. I
I remember some guy from my christian school that followed me home and kept trying to get me touch his.. and I was fat and ugly af back then so its not like I was a girl in a cute lil short skirt teasing him. I just punched him after it got to far and he got a black eye and I got suspended for bad conduct.
I'm not dragging myself/shade wtf-ever I'm being real, women have it hard but then again men have it hard in other ways
wow this long wtf I'm sorry
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Member Since: 5/27/2010
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Originally posted by Zoraluv
All I have to say is.
If you're a girl and keep your mouth shut you'll get everything you want.
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Unless you're fat/ugly - in which case, good luck!
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Member Since: 5/4/2012
Posts: 12,811
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Originally posted by SupremeGoddess
It makes complete sense if you think about it.
Why is it wrong for men to hit women? Is it because we're physically weaker? There hundreds of women who are physically stronger than the average men, for example. Yet if a man hits a stronger women, it's still wrong.
It's wrong for men to hit women because women are seen below men. Even in todays society.
I'm not saying men should be able to hit women. in fact, it should be wrong for people to hit each other, whether it's a man hitting a man, a man hitting a woman, or vice versa.
Today's society still puts women below men. Look at Saudi Arabia, and even in "better" countries, like the US for example, the women is still the underdog. Trophy Wife, women who have low wages or don't have the same rights in their work place as men, or abortion being the most recent problem.
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lol @ women in the West being underdogs because its so hard to kill a foetus you dont want, or a man marries you because youre attractive. Women marry men about to croak for money all the time.
and what rights in the workplace do they have different from men? Any workplace that follows Health and safety laws allows them a sustainable wage, a safe work environment, and vacations and special leaves of absence.
And thats what "feminists" get confused. Femininity for them is being like men. You cant be like men because youre not men
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Member Since: 11/4/2006
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I think its hard both ways but in different aspects. Look at women in media and their portrayal. Look at history, women played the minor role in society and usually were dominated by their male counterparts .Women globally have to face issues such as respect and equality as a human being, the beauty ideal, and the standard roles for women.
It also depends on where what country you live in too.
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Member Since: 11/28/2011
Posts: 27,495
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Originally posted by SupremeGoddess
It makes complete sense if you think about it.
Why is it wrong for men to hit women? Is it because we're physically weaker? There hundreds of women who are physically stronger than the average men, for example. Yet if a man hits a stronger women, it's still wrong.
It's wrong for men to hit women because women are seen below men. Even in todays society.
I'm not saying men should be able to hit women. in fact, it should be wrong for people to hit each other, whether it's a man hitting a man, a man hitting a woman, or vice versa.
Today's society still puts women below men. Look at Saudi Arabia, and even in "better" countries, like the US for example, the women is still the underdog. Trophy Wife, women who have low wages or don't have the same rights in their work place as men, or abortion being the most recent problem.
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I was talking about women being allowed to express themselves part.
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Member Since: 6/19/2012
Posts: 29,579
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Originally posted by Big Smoke
lol @ women in the West being underdogs because its so hard to kill a foetus you dont want, or a man marries you because youre attractive. Women marry men about to croak for money all the time.
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Lord, how delusional can you get?
Abortion rights are very important. If women can't choose to have access to a safe abortion then they are being denied full control of their reproductive system. These rights are often compromised or out right denied. Regarding you golddigger comment, you can't sit here and pretend there aren't young men who date older women, with financial contributions being a big part of it.
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and what rights in the workplace do they have different from men? Any workplace that follows Health and safety laws allows them a sustainable wage, a safe work environment, and vacations and special leaves of absence.
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Um... how about being paid less than men for the same work? How about women facing scrutiny on the job when they are mothers, something fathers rarely experience? How about the fact that paid maternal leave is not guaranteed in the United States?
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And thats what "feminists" get confused. Femininity for them is being like men. You cant be like men because youre not men
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I don't understand what you're getting at here. Because women aren't like men, they are going to be inequalities? Hmm... funny how the overwhelming majority of thee inequalities favor men.
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Member Since: 6/19/2012
Posts: 29,579
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Originally posted by Samuel
But if a man gets raped by a woman and reports it he won't get anywhere because according to the law only men can rape
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what law are you talking about?
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