Are you all serious? How are we (her stans) worse than other fanbases? Like the monsters thinking her fave changed the industry, Rihanna stans thinking she's talented or Nicki/Ke$ha stans thinking their faves are relevant? (And I could go on...)

The female MJ is just a joke (and tired one already). None of us actually believe it (and some of us wouldn't even want it to be remotely true).

I understand if someone "hates" her because her bad live vocals (bitch doesn't even care about it ) or her generic-ness (She earned it, but it's not like most of ATRL faves haven't been generic at one point).

But "lack of involvement", "she seems fake" () and now "her stans"? Seriously?

Becase she's bad. Professional critics and Grammy award voters agree.

Clock them! I agree with everything you wrote.That's just something they use because they don't know any other reason to hate her and they don't want to admit they're pressed at her success.

That was really unnecessary since most of the navy just commented in this thread they are fine with Katy.

Don't forget about how everyone changes their mind every half-second just to downgrade her achievements. A thread pops up about how she slays so effortlessly "Oh she over promotes her music and performs on every tv show. Her sells should be much larger." A thread pops up about how hard she works, "Oh she doesnt do **** for her music, it's all Luke. She only writes like 1 word even though she writes whole songs on her own."

Is that why she has 9 Grammy nominations including an AOTY nomination?She may not have a Grammy yet but the Grammys obviously like her and she'll get one eventually.

For the same reason that any fan of pop music hates a pop musician; jealousy. There's no way you can enjoy pop music and ~HATE~ Katy Perry. Sure, dislike her take on pop music or her personality, but to ~HATE~ her when she's making the exact same type of music as people you enjoy just doesn't make sense. (Unless she stomps on kittens in her time off or has murdered someone or something, then there's reason to hate.)

Probably also because they're pissed that they've been wrong about her since day one.
"Clearly a one hit wonder."
"Two hits are easy to get, she'll be gone soon."
"See, told you, flop third single, girl, bye."
"One album wonder."
".... 15 minutes of fame?"
Next up:
"Doctor Luke is the only reason she gets hits."

Because she deserves so... Her boobs are great btw

She's just slays so effortlessly, she really is an example of "you can be anything you want to be"
She's not the best singer
She's not the best dancer
She's clever at songwriting and has amazing charisma on stage.

So writing her own songs,playing instruments,having a great voice and even co-prouducing her own songs is not talent? Seethe please.

I dislike when they say doctor luke is the hit maker. She has the ideas, she writes the lyrics WITH people.

She is quite talented imo, she has writtena few great songs for my beloved Jessie James. However, despite many people said that she has a great persona. I think she should think before talk. She annoys the f out of me everytime she opens her mouth, like when she was @ the VMAs with her cheese cube.

Will.i.am writes his own songs.

Will.i.am plays instruments.

Will.i.am produces his own songs.

Do you think he's talented?

I liked One Of the Boys so much. I was SO disappointed with Teenage Dream. Sales mean nothing to me,

I don't dislike her for her success, I dislike her for changing her sound to fit the radio in order to BECOME successful. There's a distinct difference.

Her success.