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Discussion: Gay vs. pedophilia, incest, bestiality, etc.
Member Since: 9/3/2011
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Gay vs. pedophilia, incest, bestiality, etc.
Can we just discuss how absolutely RIDICULOUS this idea is?  I'm so sick of hearing from homophobes (yes inspired from the Reagan's son thread) that making gay marriage legal will lead to and is no worse than bestiality, pedophilia, incest, polygamy, etc.
Gay = love between two humans typically of similar age, both able to consent to sex
Bestiality = "love" between a human and an animal unable to consent to sex
Pedophilia = "love" between an adult human and a child taken advantage of and unable to consent to sex
Incest = love between two humans who are close family, offspring likely to have serious genetic disorders
Polygamy = one human with many other human lovers
I see 1 of the 5 that has the exact same description as a straight couple and can you guess which one that is?
The IGNORANCE 
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Member Since: 8/1/2012
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Gays will forever have such labels.
It's sad but society is just ****ed up
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Member Since: 9/15/2012
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um a lot of homosexuals deem incest as "morally wrong" or "gross," yet they holler and rage out when people reprimand homosexuality itself with comments addressing its supposed "nastiness," "repulsiveness," etc.
individuals in incestuous relationships don't always want children. likewise, they aren't always coerced into the intimate relationship. what's the problem here?
regarding incestuous marriage: that marriage itself is an intimate, personal union essentially indicates that the state/society should not interfere with it. no one is in a "higher position" to dictate the love life of those who engage in incest. it is a personal, private matter that merely concerns those involved (i.e. brother and sister, brother and brother...) certainly, it's not one's business if another wants to marry a relative. people have to butt out of other people's lives. sexuality is naturally personal. as a member of the lgbt community, i FULLY support polygamous marriage, as i support incestuous marriage and such; i can not pompously dictate people's preferences, nor can i deem them as "immoral"; doing so would be awfully hypocritical from my part, because some might think that homosexuality is gross.
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Member Since: 9/15/2012
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i think people should be more open about "deviant" sexualities and cease the comparisons. why not just have an in-depth discussion without shouting IGNORANCE IGNORANCE
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Member Since: 5/22/2011
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Quote:
Originally posted by lipstick lesbian
um a lot of homosexuals deem incest as "morally wrong" or "gross," yet they holler and rage out when people reprimand homosexuality itself with comments addressing its supposed "nastiness," "repulsiveness," etc.
individuals in incestuous relationships don't always want children. likewise, they aren't always coerced into the intimate relationship. what's the problem here?
regarding incestuous marriage: that marriage itself is an intimate, personal union essentially indicates that the state/society should not interfere with it. no one is in a "higher position" to dictate the love life of those who engage in incest. it is a personal, private matter that merely concerns those involved (i.e. brother and sister, brother and brother...) certainly, it's not one's business if another wants to marry a relative. people have to butt out of other people's lives. sexuality is naturally personal. as a member of the lgbt community, i FULLY support polygamous marriage, as i support incestuous marriage and such; i can not pompously dictate people's preferences, nor can i deem them as "immoral"; doing so would be awfully hypocritical from my part, because some might think that homosexuality is gross.
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This post hurt my eyes to read.
Incestry is not okay.
It's 2013 for crying out loud.. I still can't believe that idiot Reagan had the nerves to say that.
There is nothing wrong, gross or odd about homosexuality, people need to start getting there heads out of the church's ass. 
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Member Since: 11/23/2011
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Like anyone cares what Reagan has to say in this day and age. 
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Member Since: 8/16/2011
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Not too long i read on a blog where this person stated "Why not let two animals get married too if that's the case"
How the hell is that even comparable? just pure ignorance and close mindedness.
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 3/22/2012
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Quote:
Originally posted by lipstick lesbian
i think people should be more open about "deviant" sexualities and cease the comparisons. why not just have an in-depth discussion without shouting IGNORANCE IGNORANCE
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The thing is, while you made an admittedly convincing argument for incest and there's nothing wrong with polygamy, the other two "deviant sexualities" mentioned in the OP are not only "deviant", but harmful toward various beings and very, very wrong.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
Posts: 5,156
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I'm genuinely surprised that the world isn't all like "we're denying homosexuals equal rights because of a dusty old book written 2000 years ago?"
"wait what?"
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Member Since: 12/21/2010
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It's just because they're out of excuses, tbh.
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Member Since: 9/11/2010
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It's absurd and rage-inducing but what can you do? These idiots rarely take a turn for the better. They're going to keep comparing homosexuality to the plague for as long as they can find a platform to support them, but that certainly won't make it true. It's just best not to acknowledge them.
However, you bring up another...interesting point.
Incest is a complicated subject that I honestly don't think society - as a whole - is ready to tackle yet. On a personal level I want nothing to do with it, but my better judgment says that if two people are related and they claim to be in love, then it's no business of anyone else's to tell them no. HOWEVER, if said incestuous lovers are a male and a female who decide they want to conceive, THEN it becomes a problem. I don't know how exactly "the law" is supposed to handle that, and I'm not going to comment on it further, but there's some food for thought.
Polygamy is a little more out there, but it makes even less sense for social conservatives to be placing it in a negative light because hey! Mormonism is a thing. It's outlandish, for a lack of a better word, but there's nothing wrong with it either.
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Member Since: 6/21/2012
Posts: 18,849
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It's so annoying, but this is the world now.
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Member Since: 9/18/2011
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I find those slippery slope arguments to be quite stupid tbh.
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Member Since: 4/29/2012
Posts: 15,977
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Of course it's stupid there is no rational arguement against gay people
But honestly I never cared that much about incest when they are both old enough at the time it started and don't want any children. I mean as long as they both want it it's like whatever to me tbh.
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Member Since: 12/27/2011
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If it makes anyone feel any better, it's a minority of people that actually believe that bulls**t. It doesn't bother me because I know those people are full of s**t.
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Member Since: 4/10/2012
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I don't really see anything wrong with homosexuality, polygamy, or incest if it's all consensual tbh. I mean I personally would never engage in anything with a relative but as long as it's consensual and they aren't breeding I don't really care just like I don't care if two men choose to be together. Like someone else said, the problem with incest arises when a couple chooses to breed knowing very well that the chances of the child having a birth defect are dramatically increased. Not only that but inbreeding doesn't just affect THAT child but can affect generations to come. That's when the whole "It's their business mind your own" thing gets tossed out the window. Being homosexual is a totally different thing in that respect. It really doesn't affect anyone but the couple involved.
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Member Since: 6/20/2012
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Just ignore those bigots.
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Member Since: 6/28/2010
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Quote:
Originally posted by RomanNavy
Gays will forever have such labels.
It's sad but society is just ****ed up
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No they won't, people's views change.
I would say currently in the US, people's attitudes toward homosexuals are where people's attitudes towards black people were in the 1960s.
In 50 years, I am confident gays will be 100% accepted in western countries at least.
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Member Since: 6/23/2012
Posts: 2,525
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Bringing up the religious aspect, my friend wrote a university paper about how the depiction of homosexuality in the bible never actually talks about two consenting adults...Because homosexuality between two consenting adults didn't exist in that time.
Homosexuality only existed in pedophiles, rapists, etc.
Interesting, to say the least!
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Member Since: 8/25/2012
Posts: 21,188
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wow.
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