Sis, how about you quote me directly? and I don't see how it's so amusing either when either way, my point is proven to be correct(unless there's evidence that says otherwise, which has yet to be shown).

That one is a flat out lie, because raymond v raymond sold well

Then why did you bring up RIAA as a source to back up your claims. RIAA is US based just like BB.

Your posts are in contradiction but it doesn't really matter, you are just looking for something to argue about so just go ahead.

Girl you are dumb as hell. Why would you compare US numbers to WW numbers? Even if the OP didn't say it, those are US numbers she is talking about. Lets think a little.

Did you NOT read my posts? I said numerous of times in this thread that on top of the 769k in the U.S, in addition to the sales elsewhere add up to 1 million The bulk of FF & PF's sales to reach passed 981k rely on their US sales, due to both being flops.


Next time, I'd advise actually half-way reading the argument before coming in here thinking you did something


Both of you tried, and now you're dismissed. but the effort counts
And I can't @ that stale insult and you being incorrect in the end

Lol there is no argument because you don't make sense and don't use logic. This is your 1st post on the subject.
That makes no sense.
1 - Shipments are different to actual sales. And there are no shipments WW.
2 - There is nowhere in this post where you specify US or WW - just like the OP- but then you act like it's a requirement to do so.
3 - Every single person in the thread got the post except you. There is no confusion there, the post is explicit enough for people with a minimal IQ.

And lol at being on the defensive for no reason.

There's no argument, yet you're the one arguing with me before you get hot and bothered, I'd advise you to stop and watch what you're posting

I'd REALLY advise you going back and reading the argument

I guess Retro deleted this quote, so I'll link the post containing it:

The source in the quote: http://www.billboard.com/articles/ne...-would-it-hurt

769k, which what I said before still stands: That sales elsewhere add up to 1M, unless you show me something otherwise.

Can I admit I was wrong? Yea, I can. I'm not that deep in the argument anyway but it is BRITNEY, so I'd expect FF to pass 1mil because 1. 769k in the states - 2. It's not like she didn't sell anywhere else..300k sounds fair enough - and unless you show me something else, my point stands.

1. Already done and said - as I said before, read the actual argument
2. Where did I say it was a requirement, or even imply so? people were jumping on me for comparing 981k, which supposedly just JT's US first-week sales(which I honestly did not know;care enough to find out otherwise because OP didn't say so) to WW figures.

Tell me where in the OP does it say US anything - right, there is none. All of my posts have been about WW figures, which I thought that 981k were his WW sales
3. Actually..nope

You say this isn't an argument - yet you're arguing with me. and you sound beyond pressed and bitter trying to launch at me with those insults. This could have simply been a DEBATE or even a casual argument without you blowing your fuse over nothing

I'm not arguing you, I replied to your post trying to understand where the confusion stemmed from and to explain and you got defensive. I din't insult you either, why do you make up stuff?

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Anyway congrats to JT on his first week sales, I knew he could pull it off. To answer the OP he did outsell a lot of albums, it's still funny to think so many predicted he will do less than 300k.

The lies throughout this thread? JT hasn't (but soon will) outsold some of the albums y'all are throwing out.

Not a single Beyoncé album outsold.

And since when was replying back being defensive? I'm not the one who goes out of my way to insult people in a casual argument

That was not an insult nor was it a way to downgrade you. It simply meant that the OP was clearly and easily understandable. If I wanted it to be an insult directed at you, I wouldn't have specified in a previous post that you were just looking for an argument meaning that you clearly understood the OP. You know what, nevermind.

Taylor remains unbothered. Her lowest selling album is Red with 3.5 million copies sold (and counting).

Femme Fatale failing to sell one million with three top 10 hits.

That was shady as **** how do you NOT consider that an insult?
For the most part, the OP was clear, but little details is what got me. If I knew that the 981k was just JT's US sales, there wouldn't have been a problem- but of course, I didn't know, and it did say total sales, so I assumed it was on a WW scale. And I already explained multiple times about the RIAA/US sales bit, so I think we can both dismiss that.

I'm not desperate; I don't search for arguments - not my thing. Haven't done it yet, and I never will.