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Fan Base: Archived: Beyoncé (#1)
Member Since: 8/19/2011
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Originally posted by Chemist
I like him too. he might change if she doesn't release the real single soon though
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Originally posted by swissman
I agree in some respects. I still think it's not nearly as big of a deal as it's being made out to be. But I agree she is above this and doesn't need to do this. I would have much preferred this song if the bowing down was for some other thing not for her greatness.
The thing is though (and this is a clichéd thing to say), almost every rapper has a song like this where he declares himself great and whatever else. But I've NEVER once heard anyone hate on that. There is most definitely a double standard and we shouldn't get so mad that Beyonce does it if we are also not going to get mad at anyone else.
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How many ppl are on the lvl of Beyonce far as respect goes, this woman performs at The White House? Not many. I feel she's above and too freaking talented to be making songs like this. Leave that to the girls who are trying to get where she's at.
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Member Since: 8/23/2010
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Originally posted by PULSE.
They started talking about they're come ups, so I addressed that as well. As nothing do with that song. Yes, Beyonce has done hip-hop songs they were very tasteful, but NOTHING like this.
You're right it is a song, but when others do things like this most of you (maybe not you) don't view theirs as just a song.
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Lol at tasteful How exactly is "Diva" more tasteful than this? And the Beyhive don't drag people for things they say in their songs but for the way they act in life (twitter, instagram etc). Are you saying Beyoncé acts ratchet on twitter? Or just give me an example of a song that the Beyhive bashed just based on the lyrical content. I'm waiting.
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Member Since: 11/30/2009
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Y'all are doing the MOST. First of all I'm SURE Bey knew this would be controversial and gave no ****s. Did y'all not watch LIBAD?
Secondly, people mostly love the songs. The reaction is much better than RTW. The songs are hot regardless.
Thirdly, the critics love the songs. They say they're weird, and weird is good. Bey's a genius.
This will KILL urban radio, and I expect a pop single to come out next. Also DEATH @ anyone thinking the whole album will be like these two songs. She's not gonna have a whole album full of this. She never has.
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Member Since: 8/23/2010
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Originally posted by Doc
I haven't been paying attention so.... is Bow Down really causing as big of a ruckus as you guys are making it sound like?
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I have no idea but it seems like it does.
@Pulse, you remind me of the people that bashed Bey for performing at the White House and then going at her husband's concert and performing SL/Diva. It caused such an uproar because at that time too, she was too big, too respected to perform those kind of songs in those outfits and it was disrespectful that she did it just after singing "At Last" at the inauguration. 
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Member Since: 8/23/2010
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Anyway...I still want the single. 
I want things to move!!!!!
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Originally posted by Doc
I haven't been paying attention so.... is Bow Down really causing as big of a ruckus as you guys are making it sound like?
Cuz I didn't find it to be THAT serious.
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Keyshia Cole Gibson @KeyshiaCole
Can't stand when people all self righteous when it's convenient it makes them look good. Lmao! But can still talk **** when convenient 2 FOH
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First "Women need to Stick together" now bitches better Bow. Smh. But it's all G! Chicks stay shooting the ****. But when I speak my mind its a prob. #Well #StayMad
A Tweet by @KeyshiaCole
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Member Since: 12/4/2010
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Originally posted by Chemist
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nnn This broad, I don't have the time
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Originally posted by Chemist
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Member Since: 8/23/2010
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Originally posted by Ryan
I got into a heated debate today at work over Bow Down. I made it known I wasn't a big fan of the song. Some co-workers were bashing her for being a "hypocrite" and "degrading" women. I started defending Bey's right to artistic freedom and make an aggrandizing song.
I said there's nothing wrong with her singing a song about her status and haters. FOH with people bringing up Mrs. Obama and acting like she won't associate with her now bc of this song.
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OMG. Is it that serious?
And degrading women? The reach but I'm happy her releasing snippets got people talking so much.
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Member Since: 3/31/2012
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Originally posted by BnPac
Lol at tasteful How exactly is "Diva" more tasteful than this? And the Beyhive don't drag people for things they say in their songs but for the way they act in life (twitter, instagram etc). Are you saying Beyoncé acts ratchet on twitter? Or just give me an example of a song that the Beyhive bashed just based on the lyrical content. I'm waiting.
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I don't like Diva, but I can say it's much lighter than BD/IBO. They do it for songs and on twitter/IG, rather if it's on a song or social media it's still an "act" (ratchet). Me, I think B is above making songs like IBO/BD.
Who's to that person is acting ratchet on instagram just for fun. But hey, you have your views and I have mines.
The "act" ratchet needs to go.
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Originally posted by Chemist
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Bye! lol
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Member Since: 3/31/2012
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Originally posted by BnPac
I have no idea but it seems like it does.
@Pulse, you remind me of the people that bashed Bey for performing at the White House and then going at her husband's concert and performing SL/Diva. It caused such an uproar because at that time too, she was too big, too respected to perform those kind of songs in those outfits and it was disrespectful that she did it just after singing "At Last" at the inauguration. |
I'm not bashing her, I think she's too good to be singing about some bow down bit*h, I expect something that from Nicki or some new chick trying to make in the game or some unsigned hoe, not BEYONCE, the Queen B, the 17 time grammy award winner, she's above it. That's just me.
I'm just waiting on the first single.
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LOVE. IT.
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Originally posted by PULSE.
Beyonce is held to a higher standard we all know this, that's only because people respect her more than others.
But I'm sure B knew that she might get some backlash from this.
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She's been getting backlash all year over stupid ****, she might as well release something that is truly controversial.
I think the criticism got to her a little... The stuff about her pregnancy, no big hits during "4", the "lip-syncing", the stuff about her documentary... These might just be buzz singles, but they feel pretty honest and this is how she's feeling.
She should be allowed to sing whatever the hell she wants without having to apologize for it.
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She can sing whatever the hell she wants to.
She has earned that right after busting her ASS for us for 16 years.
It's been a long time and she's gained her artistic freedom to express herself in any way she wants.
She said it herself, she can sing a song about how much she hates herself one day, and how boss she is the next, and who's to stop her from doing so?
It's ridiculous. These songs were her clearly goofing around, but at the same time being serious about getting her respect.
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Originally posted by Ressti
She's been getting backlash all year over stupid ****, she might as well release something that is truly controversial.
I think the criticism got to her a little... The stuff about her pregnancy, no big hits during "4", the "lip-syncing", the stuff about her documentary... These might just be buzz singles, but they feel pretty honest and this is how she's feeling.
She should be allowed to sing whatever the hell she wants without having to apologize for it.
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She'll be get that for rest of her life, so it's pointless to address it. I agree she may have but, haters will be haters they won't respect her anymore or any less, it won't change people's op on the whole "fake bump" or the whole "lip-sync" scandal. Let the talent do the talking. She's above it.
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Member Since: 8/25/2012
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Originally posted by PULSE.
She'll be get that for rest of her life, so it's pointless to address it. I agree she may have but, haters will be haters they won't respect her anymore or any less, it won't change people's op on the whole "fake bump" or the whole "lip-sync" scandal. Let the talent do the talking. She's above it.
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It's not about changing people's opinions. There comes a certain point when you've just had enough of people disrespecting you and you feel like you have to put them in their place. We do this when we fight or argue, even if we know it won't change anything. I guess she needed people to know. Most people won't like it, but it's her right.
If I was in charge I wouldn't have let her release "Bow Down", but as a fan, i'm glad she did.
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Member Since: 2/2/2010
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I think some people are probably worried if this will effect the album like RTW did?!?
It really isn't that serious though.
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Member Since: 3/31/2012
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Originally posted by Ressti
It's not about changing people's opinions. There comes a certain point when you've just had enough of people disrespecting you and you feel like you have to put them in their place. We do this when we fight or argue, even if we know it won't change anything. I guess she needed people to know. Most people won't like it, but it's her right.
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Some ppl HAVE to do that. BEYONCE doesn't. She is Beyonce for crying out loud you don't have to sing about bow down bit*h when you're GREAT, which she is. I feel she's above it and too talented of an artist and ICON to make crappy songs like that, obv the rest of you feel differently, which is cool.
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