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Discussion: Is it safe to say Frank Ocean is the new prince of R&B?
Member Since: 5/8/2012
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 if that's not genuine, i don't know what is
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Member Since: 5/15/2012
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Originally posted by Stepfon
A self-released mixtape landed Frank to working with Beyoncé, Kanye West, and Jay-Z, everyone wanted to work with Frank after the release of Nostalgia, Ultra.
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!! Not these girls getting their life from a bilboard cover. We been did that.
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Member Since: 9/1/2012
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Originally posted by Stepfon
Let's not get into the sales of Christopher's last couple of studio albums.  |
F.A.M.E - 872,000 - sure it's plat by now
Fortune - 500k - roughly the same amount as CO
the only album y'all can talk about is Graffiti, which you shouldn't be talking at all when CO can barely scan gold
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Originally posted by BlueRanger
No shade, but thats all a bunch of bull ****.. You are saying that album sales and awards have nothing to do with being called the "Prince of R&B" ? Girl bye. sit down.
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The argument I see Frank Ocean's fans throwing in here is that "Frank Ocean has a critically acclaimed album, two grammy's, and a platinum hit, so he MUST be the new p-rince of r&b  "
nothing about his material, which is more important than Grammy's, sales, and critical acclaim combined.
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Member Since: 6/8/2008
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Originally posted by Butters
if that's not genuine, i don't know what is
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The girls are going into that "Frank used his sexuality" for album sales thing, even though A) A Blind Item leaked a month before Frank even came out and alluded that an up and coming R&B star would be admitting his same sex love on his album. B) People keep forgetting that someone at a listening party published an article about Frank and he pronouns on Channel Orange, then it became a big issue, and then Frank posted the letter on Tumblr.
Same song, different day.
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Member Since: 5/8/2012
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'No Church in the Wild' went gold I think
But I'm not sure if Frank was credited for it 
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Member Since: 6/8/2008
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Originally posted by Genocide
F.A.M.E - 872,000 - sure it's plat by now
Fortune - 500k - roughly the same amount as CO
the only album y'all can talk about is Graffiti, which you shouldn't be talking at all when CO can barely scan gold
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Boo, I will not accept the lies on this day.
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US album sales: @ChrisBrown, Fortune 2,406 (432,585 total).
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https://twitter.com/chartnews/status/310414615383269376
Let's not even get into ALL the promo he is has done for this album.
Come correct or don't come at all.
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
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Originally posted by BeyOcean
!! Not these girls getting their life from a bilboard cover. We been did that.
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Odd Future surely did that. They still haven't happened.
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Member Since: 8/3/2012
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Originally posted by Butters
'No Church in the Wild' went gold I think
But I'm not sure if Frank was credited for it |
His voice is heard on more than 50% of that song though.
He is credited yes.
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Member Since: 5/12/2012
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Originally posted by Genocide
F.A.M.E - 872,000 - sure it's plat by now
Fortune - 500k - roughly the same amount as CO
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Stop with these lies Floptune has sold barely 430,000.... However Channel Orange has sold 523,000 in just the us...
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For an artist and album that got so much media hype, CO's numbers are actually abyssal. I'm supposed to be impressed by Gold? As much as he's been propped and talked about, that album should be no less than RIAA-certified double platinum. Frank is all hype, by way of stunts. Seriously, what's he gonna reveal before the release of his next album to keep up the press: that he's having a sex change operation?
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Member Since: 4/25/2011
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Originally posted by BlueRanger
Miguel will need to either sell a gold album, hell even single before he can be the Jester of New Jack Swing. Just because he got mad AIRPLAY with "Adorn" and it was #1 doesn't mean people actually BOUGHT the single. The single flopped all over the world... as did the album. |
LOL Frank had better album sales but that's not saying much
and AGAIN, Channel Orange isn't pure R&B so that voids him thee TITLE
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Originally posted by Stepfon
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and you can only point out one mistake  as I said, no Frank Ocean fan should come at ANYONE else about sales when Frank can barely scan gold on his album.
And the amount of promo doesn't really matter..we know Chris' album power has been damaged dramatically, but still manages to sell semi-decently with his single sales propping him up.
Sales, Grammy's, and critical acclaim do not make Frank the prince of r&b. His music is stale, monotone, boring, and reductive. And on top of that, not that innovative and or talented either.
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Member Since: 8/3/2012
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
I think most here agree that Miguel is the only contender.
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Repeating it 5 times in a row all by yourself doesn't turn it into a consensus.
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
Let's move along.
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But you are still here AND the top poster.
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Member Since: 4/25/2011
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
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Preach
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Member Since: 8/3/2012
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Originally posted by Genocide
His music is stale, monotone, boring, and reductive. And on top of that, not that innovative and or talented either.
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This invalidates any other point you were trying to make.
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Member Since: 8/19/2011
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Originally posted by Stepfon
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Girl. Both their sales are a mess. Him selling an extra 70k+ is not that big of a difference? and dead at "all the promo" when Chris dropped Fortune, tweeted "buymyshit"and announced a new album one month later. Frank shows up at every award show, gets overhyped to the heavens, goes on stage, sound a mess and sell a few extra copies the next week. Wasn't he even at the Brits? mess. and I'm certain Fortune outsold it on a WW scale.
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Anyway, Miguel >>
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Member Since: 4/25/2011
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Originally posted by ryanpittman97
Miguel is good contender but he's lacking in certain departments.
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In what department? He only lacks sales. Frank on the other hand lacks consistency which is worse. I love Channel Orange but it ain't pure R&B
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Originally posted by Brando
This invalidates any other point you were trying to make.
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It's valid to my point Frank's material isn't anything special, especially to be crowned as the prince of R&B.
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
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Originally posted by jomarr
Miguel is but he can be one too
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Originally posted by La Cobra Mafia
No. Miguel is.
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
Frank doesn't even like to be labeled R&B, and he doesn't have as many R&B hits as Miguel, so no. Miguel is the closest thing to the R&B Prince at the moment.
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Originally posted by Chamber
Not even close. If there is an 'R&B Prince' at the moment...and I'm not so sure...but if there is, then Miguel is a much better contender to the title than Frank.
Quite frankly, Frank is bland and weird, and he rubs me the wrong way. Miguel is weird too, but at least he's got the voice and a sound that is more conducive, and in line, to the genre. In the meantime, Frank is all hype. If he has any substance, it'll be smothered to death by his hype soon enough and he'll go back to being some underground novelty act. I can see Miguel still being around in five years, even after his hype becomes less fresh. Sort of like John Legend.
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Originally posted by theoyella jukebox
Miguel is closer than Frank is tbh.
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Originally posted by YeaBey4ever
Anyway, Miguel >>
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Originally posted by Brando
Repeating it 5 times in a row all by yourself doesn't turn it into a consensus.
But you are still here AND the top poster.
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And you were saying?
And just because you like "unique" artists doesn't mean you're some music connoisseur. Now go and stan for a Pitchfork-loved album.
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Member Since: 8/3/2012
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And why do people throw this cover to make some kind of point?
Miguel breaks out where?
He got 40k sales for Adork after the Grammys. That's it.
His album didn't get a bump.
He was only nominated for 1 major category compared to 3 for Frank.
CO won over KD in album category....
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