Originally posted by Artemisia

I'm sorry, man*****, but your **** is getting tiring.

How are extremist fanboys exclusive to Apple and Nintendo? Did you miss the millions of jaded android and sony stans? Why mention them at all, really? You don't sell 90 million Wiis and 150 million DS systems by being supported by fanboys. You don't sell 250 million iPhones with only fanboys buying them. Stop trying to invalidate impressive sales numbers. In fact, the exact reason the Wii U is underperforming is because it is appealing to only gamer and not the general public.

Secondly, the average consumer (you know, the people buying the majority of the phones) aren't concerned about the iPhone being underpowered. As far as they are concerned, the iPhone is the premium phone on the market, and the rest are mere imitators. That goes for tablets as well. From the format's introduction, and even now, people refer to them as just iPads. Apple products do very well on the market and they make tons of profit for them. If Apple is flopping, then that implies quite grim performance for their competition.

Originally posted by man*****

It's not so serious. Don't take my wii u /apple critiques as a personal attack at you. I'm merely talking market perception and or current sales trends. I never said Apple was not selling. I did say that about Wii U though.

Originally posted by Artemisia

I know you aren't making personal attacks.

You dug your grave by mentioning Apple in your thread. They aren't in a bad position at all relative to the rest of the industry.

Originally posted by man*****

Apple sure was valued up with the likes of an oil company (ExxonMobil) but the price has been plummeting in stock value, currently nearing 400. The poll is who will prove them wrong since naysayers like myself and analyst are predicting continued downfall unless they innovate. WII U's only innovation at this point is if they can come out to E3 and mind **** us all with original groundbreaking ips. Apple just needs to step up their game.. They make pretty phones and that's all, the fanboys still are loyalist to them (and also Nintendo) thus their continued success.

Originally posted by man*****

They make pretty phones and that's all, the fanboys still are loyalist to them (and also Nintendo) thus their continued success.

Originally posted by RastaMentality

If you've noticed, ANYone who clings to Wall Street 24/7 always gets proved wrong. I mean these are the guys that ****ed up our own US economy. Why the hell would you trust them when talking about technology?

Originally posted by man*****

Can I have an example of that? The recession happened not because of Wall Street culture, but primarily as a result of predatory lending. (mortgages)

Originally posted by highwayuni

My sister's primary school recently bought 60 iPad's and use the iconic iMovie app to make movies as part of the school curriculum. Impact! Legendary! When will Samsung?

Originally posted by highwayuni

My sister's primary school recently bought 60 iPad's and use the iconic iMovie app to make movies as part of the school curriculum. Impact! Legendary! When will Samsung?

Originally posted by man*****

The "my friend/family" argument. No!

My entire family have iPhones and admit it's not the best phone but that they buy it cause it's trendy and because everyone else has one.

Originally posted by RastaMentality

So you just said that the "my friend/family argument" was dumb as **** then just turned around and used it? K.

Originally posted by DripDrip

Neither Nintendo or Apple are going to go down under, that logic needs to stop

Nintendo isn't selling hot with the Wii U but do you really think they're going be useless and never make any again? Nintendo owns two of the biggest franchised games ever with Mario and Pokemon, who despite having the same formulaic game for over 20 years at least still manage to sell over 100 million units. Do you really think this one system if going to cause turmoil and bring them down. That's the dumbest thing I've heard. The money Nintendo makes from those two is immense.

Same with Apple, its revenue worldwide last year was over 100 billion. Just because of some weak products right now. Its not going at a downward spiral. Its still the best leading company in technology today. Nothing is touching apples crown anytime soon.

Nintendo and Apple are at the top of their respected core markets. One flopping product will not bring it down.