Chart Listings: online streaming equivalent to Itunes download - Page 2

Witness

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Originally posted by Brando

Just look for that Dust2 thread from earlier today. He had a thread full of tweets from Billboard. One of them mentioned the 2m.

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#1: 100 million streams
#2: 10 million streams

#1: 2,000,000 downloads
#2: 200,000 downloads

#1: 1 billion Nielsen AI impression
#2: 100 million Nielsen AI impression )

From billboard editor-in-chief.

Perfectly balanced. Every big viral song will go #1 for months at a time even if the sales are effectively zero. I mean, unless some other song sells 2 million copies or happens to have a billion in airplay for that week.

Thomasuxx

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Originally posted by Brando

Yep. BB said Harlem Shake had 350% lead over Thrift Shop on this week's chart points.
If Bieber couldn't dethrone Fun with 520k downloads, can you imagine how much he'd need to sell to have a 350% lead of We Are Young?
I'd say about 2 million.

So yes

Billboard is turning into a such a big mess

Ger-55

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Originally posted by Brando

Billboard said 2 million.

You're kidding, right? It's not fair

MusicTalker

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Originally posted by Retro

According to the previously posted information, 1 download = 50 streams = 500 audience impressions.

That doesn't work though.

Having 1 download = 500 audience impressions gives like double inflation to airplay. even more than before. And it doesn't work for the #s this week. For example.

1 Harlem Shake 262000 + 4000 + 20600000 = 2326000
2 Thrift Shop 412000 + 224000 + 202000 = 838000
3 Stay 306000 + 50000 + 78000 = 434000
4 Scream & Shout 158000 + 198000 + 96000 = 452000
5 I Knew You Were Trouble 149000 + 274000 + 56000 = 479000
...
....
8 When I Was Your Man 217000 + 110000 + 52000 = 379000
9 Suit & Tie 201000 + 146000 + 40000 = 387000
10 Started from the Bottom 168000 + 60000 + 110000 = 338000

Also, HS points / TS, in this case, does not equal even close to 3.5x.

2326000 / 838000 = 2.78

Retro

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Originally posted by MusicTalker

That doesn't work though.

Having 1 download = 500 audience impressions gives like double inflation to airplay. even more than before. And it doesn't work for the #s this week. For example.

1 Harlem Shake 262000 + 4000 + 20600000 = 2326000
2 Thrift Shop 412000 + 224000 + 202000 = 838000
3 Stay 306000 + 50000 + 78000 = 434000
4 Scream & Shout 158000 + 198000 + 96000 = 452000
5 I Knew You Were Trouble 149000 + 274000 + 56000 = 479000
...
....
8 When I Was Your Man 217000 + 110000 + 52000 = 379000
9 Suit & Tie 201000 + 146000 + 40000 = 387000
10 Started from the Bottom 168000 + 60000 + 110000 = 338000

Also, HS points / TS, in this case, does not equal even close to 3.5x.

2326000 / 838000 = 2.78

Then I'd say the estimate of 1000 is probably pretty good - we all know Billboard likes to lie about the formula anyway.

MusicTalker

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Originally posted by Retro

Then I'd say the estimate of 1000 is probably pretty good - we all know Billboard likes to lie about the formula anyway.

I'm going to stick with :

1 download = 1000 airplay impressions = 50 streams

I think BB deflated airplay on purpose. I've tried multiplying and dividing airplay by all types of #s & none worked ... except when I left them alone, and it worked almost perfectly.

My theory leaves HS / TS = 3.2ish something, but w/e. I'll keep testing next week.

castle13

2 million

Tsuko

It seems like too much, but it's not, because on 99% of other weeks the highest song might get 5-10 million streams. If they made 100 million streams count for, say, 200,000 downloads, then on normal weeks Youtube will made no real impact on the chart at all.

OnlyRihanna

Who can deny , Harlem Shake was the most popular song of this week . So it deserves to be #1 . I don't think this change is messy . Now it's harder to predict the chart it will be more exciting

KarlosVzla

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Originally posted by Brando

Billboard said 2 million.

This is ****ing retarded. UGH! This formula is killing me

Green

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Originally posted by Brando

Billboard said 2 million.

Oh god

I refuse to take this chart seriously anymore.

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