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Poll: Had "Hannah Montana" never happened, would Miley be famous?
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Originally posted by LONGWAY2GO.
It's nice that you still check for her despite nobody else doing it, but no, CBT did not outsell Unbroken, and i can provide you with FACTS because i'm sure your WW slaes for CBT are from Mediatraffic
So yeah, my point still stands, nobody's been checking for Miley since she left HM, and unless you post CBT album sales with REAL receipts, you are DIMISSED. If your' gon' come back with unofficial, innacturate, FAKE receipts from Mediatraffic you can just leave.

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Disregarding Medaitraffic when it's one of the only reliable sources for WW sales?  Are you implying that the numbers they have for CBT are made up?  If anything, Mediatraffic is known for leaving sales out when it comes to albums since they don't factor in every country of the world. But if you'd like, we can go by OceanUP and Zimbio articles that say CBT has sold 1.5 million to date, but you probably wouldn't believe that either.
But I'm anxious to know, where are these receipts you have to Unbroken selling so much? Last time I checked it was hovering around the 400k in the states and gold somewhere in Brazil, but knowing that Demi has such an outrageous global reach, I might be wrong. 
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Originally posted by briannaisboss
It certainly wouldn't have spawned 2 best selling movies, one of which set the record for the high revenue for a 3-D movie for one weekend, a show with a global audience of 200 million viewers in 2008 alone, a billion dollar franchise, etc. I have a hard time believing the show would've been as much of a hit as it was.
Just my opinion though 
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We all know HM was Disney Channel's biggest project ever, but we're here to discuss what's left of Miley after HM ended 
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Originally posted by pika
Disregarding Medaitraffic when it's one of the only reliable sources for WW sales?  Are you implying that the numbers they have for CBT are made up?  If anything, Mediatraffic is known for leaving sales out when it comes to albums since they don't factor in every country of the world. But if you'd like, we can go by OceanUP and Zimbio articles that say CBT has sold 1.5 million to date, but you probably wouldn't believe that either.
But I'm anxious to know, where are these receipts you have to Unbroken selling so much? Last time I checked it was hovering around the 400k in the states, but knowing Demi has an outrageous global reach, I might be wrong. 
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Isn't Mediatraffic the site that stated Rihanna's LOUD was @ 6.5M when according to Universal's report it was @ 5million?  That's 1.5M difference for an ACTUAL global force, so god knows CBT's real numbers
Yeah, of course you would bring Demi YET AGAIN to the discussion, instead of providing official receipts for Can't Be Tamed
And yeah, Unbroken is @ 400+K, a number CBT wasn't able to reach. And since we don't have official receipts for either album's global sales, but we DO know Unbroken outsold CBT on the single country we have receipts for, you'll have to deal with that fact haunting you for the rest of your life.
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Originally posted by briannaisboss
It certainly wouldn't have spawned 2 best selling movies, one of which set the record for the high revenue for a 3-D movie for one weekend, a show with a global audience of 200 million viewers in 2008 alone, a billion dollar franchise, etc. I have a hard time believing the show would've been as much of a hit as it was.
Just my opinion though 
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That can't be determined though.  Hannah had everything marketing-wise to help it.
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Originally posted by LONGWAY2GO.
We all know HM was Disney Channel's biggest project ever, but we're here to discuss what's left of Miley after HM ended 
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Poll: Had "Hannah Montana" never happened, would Miley be famous?
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that's not what you asked 
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WaiTTTTTT not Zimbio and OceanUp being used as official receipts. 
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Originally posted by briannaisboss
that's not what you asked 
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Even then, what you said above had nothing to do with the thread's discussion, so you can drop it 
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Originally posted by LONGWAY2GO.
Isn't Mediatraffic the site that stated Rihanna's LOUD was @ 6.5M when according to Universal's report it was @ 5million?  That's 1.5M difference for an ACTUAL global force, so god knows CBT's real numbers
Yeah, of course you would bring Demi YET AGAIN to the discussion, instead of providing official receipts for Can't Be Tamed
And yeah, Unbroken is @ 400+K, a number CBT wasn't able to reach. And since we don't have official receipts for either album's global sales, but we DO know Unbroken outsold CBT on the single country we have receipts for, you'll have to deal with that fact haunting you for the rest of your life.
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Mediatraffic had Loud at 6.1 million and the press release had it at 5.7 million. Not to mention a numerous amount of sales confirmed it sold over 6 million.
And as for CBT, look up on the website yourself for sales from summer 2010 to the end of the year, they're right there. If you're too lazy to do that then that's your problem. The fact is, CBT has sold over 800k according to Mediatraffic which is the only source on WW sales we have. But alas, I am still waiting for those receipts of Unbroken selling more than CBT but you seem to be still focusing on the US solely. Wouldn't expect much more considering who you stan for, but living in this bubble that the US is the only place that matters will only get you so far. 
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Originally posted by LONGWAY2GO.
Even then, what you said above had nothing to do with the thread's discussion, so you can drop it 
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I was replying to someone's post after I already answered the original question like everybody else on this website does

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Originally posted by Right Now
WaiTTTTTT not Zimbio and OceanUp being used as official receipts. 
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When did I ever claim them as official? I don't believe those articles either, but if LONGWAY2GO doesn't want to go by Mediatraffic (a website all stans use when looking for WW receipts) then he can go by the sales provided by OceanUP and Zimbio. But no matter which one you go by, Can't Be Tamed still ends up out selling Unbroken. 
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Originally posted by pika
The fact is, CBT has sold over 800k according to Mediatraffic which is the only source on WW sales we have. :
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Not it's not and it's been proven SEVERAL times, but hey, whatever so the Miley stans can still believe their fave is a huge global force and has a shot at a comeback.
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Originally posted by pika
When did I ever claim them as official? I don't believe those articles either, but if LONGWAY2GO doesn't want to go by Mediatraffic (a website all stans use when looking for WW receipts) then he can go by the sales provided by OceanUP and Zimbio. But no matter which one you go by, Can't Be Tamed still ends up out selling Unbroken. 
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Not when it comes to OFFICIAL sources only 
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No, but that's not a bad thing 
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Originally posted by LONGWAY2GO.
Not it's not and it's been proven SEVERAL times, but hey, whatever so the Miley stans can still believe their fave is a huge global force and has a shot at a comeback.
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You're the definition of denial. The sales are RIGHT there on the WEBSITE.  How you gonna say Mediatraffic doesn't have it at 800k when it does. I can't with you.
And if you're so intent on CBT not selling 800k, then you can look at Miley's touring receipts for further guidance of her being a global force. But then again, you might not even believe that so what's the point. 
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Originally posted by pika
You're the definition of denial. The sales are RIGHT there on the WEBSITE.  How you gonna say Mediatraffic doesn't have it at 800k when it does. I can't with you.
And if you're so intent on CBT not selling 800k, then you can look at Miley's touring receipts for further guidance of her being a global force. But then again, you might not even believe that so what's the point. 
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What's truly laughable is the fact that you are STILL trying to pass Mediatraffic as an official, accurate source 
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without her famous dad she never would've even got on Disney. she'd be a webcam girl or worse
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I doubt it, to be honest.
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Hell no. Hannah Montana WAS her career. If her first album wasn't combined with the second Hannah Montana soundtrack her solo career would never have happened (not with that much success). And at the moment she rejected her Hannah Montana image (Can't Be Tamed) she flopped.
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