But then if she's only submitted to the dance categories twice ever, that makes her supposed ownership of the category seem even weaker. If anything her submissions to pop for the Blackout songs and 3 make it seem like she wasn't establishing herself at dance like you said she was. Moonlighting temporarily if anything.

So you're saying HIAM in Dance? And TTWE in Pop?

You're dodging the question We both know should the rules have been the same this would have been her strongest chance at another Grammy since Toxic.

I never said she "owned" the field. By "this is HER field" - I meant this HER field to lose.

The Blackout and 3 submissions were careless, but with her last nominations in dance it was pretty evident that she was establishing/being established as a dance act.

Yes. A flop nomination sounds good for the legend!

I'm not dodging anything lol. The way you're phrasing it was confusing and I wanted to make sure I knew what you meant.

If 3 and The Blackout songs were submitted in Pop only, how do we know that they might not have happened again? If "carelessness" happened those times, it could happen another time.

And I don't think she would have gotten a pop nomination, and I'm even not sure of a dance nomination.

I see We Found Love, Party Rock Anthem as locks and Born This Way, Give Me Everything, and Without You as strong contenders too.

Then theres also the other non mainstream/EDM acts like Robyn, Skrillex, Swedish House Mafia, etc, and some of those would probably get nominated

Dont forget songs like Super Bass, ET, and Moves Like Jagger which could have been submitted here too.

So I don't think she had chances were that that good. Would have been very competitive

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Britney would have been nominated for HIAM and FF. The fact that Britney is loved in this category will guarantee her a nomination no matter how competitive the field may be.

You are just trying to discredit Britney and have been throwing me statements that don't make sense at all. Sorry, I won't take the bait.

So as closure, let's flash a few pages back:

Britney's last solo nomination was in 2010, while BNA Xtina was in 2008, with 2 albums released since then.

S&S and it's success is looking like it has a stronger chance at a nomination than JAF.

FF may not have been a strong contender in the pop categories, but would have shined in the dance categories should the same rules stay in place when she won for "Toxic" and nominated for "Womanizer."

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Hmm... I don't think so, it's not a good album, it just has some nice songs.

I think this actually ruined her career, thinking she was above Britney just because she won that Grammy, her voice was at her best at that time and musically her hired songwriters did a good job but she wasn't the queen she thought she was.

And that award that early in her career messed up her head, her ego and all the possibilities for her to develop some humility, pretty hard to achieve with that powerful voice, releasing albums when she wanted, making poor decisions and pretty much flushing a promising career down the toilet, that award was really for Britney...

It's true lol. To you it probably seemed like that because you kept asking the question in between responses that I hadn't seen yet.

Do you think I needed to dodge a question like that when I know how competitive that year was? It's common sense and no one will needs to dodge something like that

And as I just showed you in the last few response, she is not that beloved in that category. Not as much as Justin or Kylie, or in the modern sense, even as much as Gaga or Rihanna.

What bait is there? And my statement about that year make a whole lot of sense. If they didn't, you'd be able to counter easily about how HIAM could get nominated in a competitive year against PRA, BTW, WFL, etc.

But I don't think you can. Like I said, WFL and PRA were locks. Skrillex was a lock too because he was BNA nommed. Probably another EDM person, and then maybe Super Bass since it didn't fit anywhere else. There could be other combinations, but there probably wouldn't be room for HIAM.

And there's no way Femme Fatale would ever get nominated in Dance album Are you even familiar with that category? If she can't even get Dance Performance, how in the world could she get Dance Album? Even when Dance performance was lax, that category has always been very strict.